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Sohcahtoa
God damn!
That woman has some HIPS on her!
decker
good fer birthin
(Action) chews on some straw
Sohcahtoa
I was gonna mention that I mean that in a GOOD way
unkletom
i logged in to that account
and some girl messaged me "why did you steal my account"
lol
after some confirmation of details i gave the account back to her
decker
"uh, is this misty?"
unkletom
heh
decker
did the toons have armor and inventory ?
unkletom
yeah
i found that odd
decker
maybe an ex-bf
unkletom
but it had sh*tloads of characters
think it was used for goldspam
decker
ah
unkletom
ill add her to msn and say i gave the account back
maybe ill get a camshow
decker
good luck with that
eyesore
cant wait for the new season, unkletom!!!
unkletom
meh prolly going to take a year =/
trickee
new season?
Monty5
Android Passes iPhone Web Traffic in the U.S
Sohcahtoa
Fuck yeah
trickee
who cares?
except google and apple
Sohcahtoa
There's nothing special about the iPhone
Everything it does, the Droid does better
Monty5
I just wish WebOS was doing better, it's the best
trickee
well
HP just bought Palm
prob gonna destroy it now
Sohcahtoa
I didn't know Palm was still around
trickee
the Palm Pre is actually really nice
I wish i had it tbh
Monty5
whoah, they did?
I like my Pre
Monty5
This might be a good thing
A webos tablet would rule, and HP can do that
The Pre hardware is mediocre, but damn the OS is great..
trickee
funny how they make the first pda and they are the sinking ship
really shows what marketing can do
(apple)
i wonder when people will finally get tired of buying up everything apple pitches at them
how many times will they just re-invent the same product over and market it with a different spin to gain revenue
unkletom
did you see how they left a prototype of their new phone in a cafe
trickee
i think the ipad really finally showed this is what apple does
yeah
unkletom
and some guy found it and sold it to gizmodo now he's being prosecuted or w/e
lol
sneaky cunts
trickee
i didnt know he was being prosecuted
how can they prosecute
mnaybe civially sued
unkletom
dunno i made that up
trickee
heh
unkletom
his home got raided
all computers taken etc
Sohcahtoa
Its all a big fu*king PR stunt
trickee
no it didnt
Sohcahtoa
Seriously
Its a fu*king PR stunt. Unfortunately, its working.
trickee
who cares
i'm so sick of apple
unkletom
his home got raided
Sohcahtoa
Bullsh*t
unkletom
what
trickee
i like their computers, i like the OSX operating system, i work on it everyday in preference over windows, but i am sick of hte apple marketing machine
and people just gobbeling it up
unkletom
police = apples gestapo
trickee
thats not the guy who foudn the phone
it was the editor of gizmodo
big difference
i can see where gizmodo is legally responsible as a business
unkletom
umm ye
trickee
they pursued buying hte phone for $5k
unkletom
so that makes the guy that found it in deeper sh*t
trickee
potentially hurting apples market share
no
it doesnt
he was acting as a civilian
he may be civilly liable
*civilaly
however you spell it
unkletom
you dont know if he really found it. and if u find something you turn it in to the police
not sell it
pwnd
Monty5
Palm's bad marketing killed em
Those awful pre ads..
spectre_
yeah there is a responsibility to turn in any item yuo find worth over a certain amount to the police
Monty5
I'd go with android after webos for sure, screw apple
spectre_
or you could be guilty of posession of stolen property
even if you found it
(someone else may have stolen it)
Monty5
I heard the marketing guy at Palm left or go fired yesterday too heh
He needed to go way back.. They sure won't need him now
spectre_
so the only argument the phone seller has is that he abdicated his responsibility to gizmodo by selling it to them
but that's pretty thin
as far as gizmodo they were almost certainly in posession of stolen property
unkletom
but they can play the card they didnt know it was stolen
spectre_
the only legal issue is if they police had the right to seize his sh*t over it, not if they were or were not posessing a potentially stolen item
doesnt matter unkletom
<@spectre_> yeah there is a responsibility to turn in any item yuo find worth over a certain amount to the police
and if you dont, you could be guilty of posession
unkletom
so that makes the guy that found it responsible
spectre_
well
unkletom
gizmodo bought it from a seller
spectre_
gizmodo bought stolen goods
unkletom
yeah they have to return it
spectre_
there's no question that they were wrong there
unkletom
but they cant be hold liable
spectre_
no one is even arguing that
sure they can
but they wont be
unkletom
so if i buy a xbox on ebay
and that xbox was stolen by the seller
spectre_
the only legal issue hwere is if the police had the right to take his sh*t or not
unkletom
i can get jailtime?
dont think so
spectre_
theoretically
unkletom
they can only seize the item
spectre_
uh
yeah you should read the law
and that's all i'm going to say about it
trickee
unkletom: if you have knowledge it was stolen, then yes
spectre_
even if yyou dont
trickee
if you ahve no knowledge, then no
unkletom
see
spectre_
if they can convince a jury you did
then yes
duh
trickee
well
thats all theoretical
jury shouldnt/wouldnt ocnvinct without some evidence
spectre_
the law isnt theoretical
no
trickee
(an email from the seller saying hey this xbox is hot, thats why you got a good deal)
etc
spectre_
and the law sys that technically you're in posession of stolen property
regardless if you knew it
trickee
actually
it varies
state to state
but whatever
spectre_
yeah we're talking aob ut cali here
Since that's where the sh*t was siezed from
it's the same in WA
No one is even arguing about that though
trickee
i'm pretty sure if you have no knowledge of it (or at least ther eis no evidence of it) you wont be criminally prosecuted
its a weak case
spectre_
I still dont get how no one really understands the legal issue
unkletom
good marketing tho
spectre_
everyone is fighting over if gizmodo was culpable or not
But that doesnt eve matter
they were, but they aren;t going to be prosecuted
no one is even fighting about that legally
the only issue is weather or not those systems should have been siezed
and the answer is no
trickee
what is 'the email' they ar etalking about
spectre_
the email they sent to the DA saying that they were shielded from seizure
trickee
oh
before they bought the phone/
er ?
spectre_
no
after
trickee
oh
spectre_
but they are
regardless if they are culpable for the posession (they are technically)
no one wants to prosecute it
trickee
then why seize
whats the poiint
spectre_
but they ARE sheilded from search and seizure
trickee
to prevent them from pbulishing anymore?
spectre_
i suspect it's so apple finds out how much they knew
trickee
about that phone
spectre_
do they can get ahead of any more scoops
with their marketing machine
trickee
pretty shady
spectre_
totally
trickee
and scary
spectre_
yeah i agree
apple has jackbooted thugs to kick down doors
it's disturbing
trickee
blatent proof a large corp controlling, or at the veyr least, being granted favors, by the justice systme
what makes you say that
spectre_
apple sits on the steering comittee for that task force
so ... :P
the task force just did what apple said without realkly questioning it
trickee
heh 'REACT'
yeah, react when fu*king sh*t goes down
spectre_
yeah
trickee
in Palo Alto
spectre_
it's bullsh*t
dude they searched a guys house here in freemont
in seattle
over the same sh*t