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sevier
jmarsden: ok I am going to kill it by the way ,,,, yes and exactly the same about ristricted codecs
NathanW
what i'm woundering is there any way that the raid0 system could be like "locked" in to that mode via a chip on the hdd or flags on the discs? that would cause it to fail when you try and format it... cause thats exactly how its acting but if thats the case how can i work aroudn this ? as the old system is no longer around eg went to the recycle bin about a 4 days ago when i pulled the drives ... :-\
jmarsden
NathanW: Boot from a LiveCD, and dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/WHATEVER bs=1k count=1k each hard drive in the system. After that the drives are unlikely to "remember" anything much about an older partitioning scheme .. so if something does remember, it is the hardware RAID controller.
Note that this *will* destroy data on these drives.
NathanW
sweet! ya hopefully it WILL destroy data and everythign in my way
i just really dont get the issue any other server would be like bam hdds here i'm up install install install reboot working but they hada get a compaq LOL
is the debian netinst iso a live cd?
lost_soul
NathanW: no, it's for installs
Bushmills
well, you can alt-f2 switch to a console with terminal
so in a way it is a live cd
NathanW
would that allow me to do a dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/WHATEVER bs=1k count=1k ?
Bushmills
yes
(hope that more recent netinst still do)
NathanW
i got a couple old netinst disks :-) too
Afshin
Hi to all
Can any one speek about TC 9
Can any one speek about TC (traffic control) in debian
hideo
!lartc
dpkg
hmm... lartc is the Linux Advanced Routing & Traffic Control HOWTO. http://lartc.org/ #lartc on irc.oftc.net. See also <wondershaper>.
jpinx-eeepc
Can I give one user (me) specific permission to mount a filesystem-in-a-file to a mount point in his home dir as with -o loop , but without using su or sudo ? The intention is to make it workable in the pcmanfm filemanager gui window.
nevyn
yes
vi /etc/fstab /pathtofile /home/user/mountpoint filesystemtype defaults,loop,user 0 0
jpinx-eeepc
nevyn: thanks, that's one way, but the /path/to/file varies as it is on a usb stick :/
nevyn
jpinx-eeepc: dear god why?
jpinx-eeepc: it's programming for sparkies. and they still make a mess of it.
jpinx-eeepc
it's complicated ;)
nevyn
it's not complicated it's DRAWING programs.
jpinx-eeepc
it's an ext3 fs in a file on a vfat stick so that windox users can not easily read it
nevyn: I'll take a look at udev naming rules maybe... ;)
nevyn
the wikipedia page for it expresses what I'm saying perfectly.
which of the following is easier to understand?
1. ----[ ]---------|--[ ]--|------( )
X | Y | S
| |
|--[ ]--|
Z
bleh or S = X AND ( Y OR Z )
ok.
wrong window.. dunno how I messed that up
simonrvn
er?
heh
bolt-work
i really prefer the latter...
timeoh___
is there a tool that plots a graph on command line?
martb_home
timahvo1: gnuplot
lindi-
any idea on how to disable cursor blinking in gnome-terminal 2.30.1-1? I've googled around but gconftool-2 -s /apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/Default/cursor_blink_mode -t string off does not seem to have any effect
hacker_kid
ok this cant be a coincidence. i have two almost identical machines (old hp Vectia VE's) that stop after detecting hardware and say they couldnt mount the cd, all other machines (so far 5 similarly powered boxes) install fine off the same disk (lenny) any ideas?
unixp
hey know so. why in Xfce a new theme shows only the difference in the task bars, but not in the other windows?
i added the themes in /usr/share/themes
bolt-work
whoa.
today's the day marty mcfly is supposed to arrive from 1985 (back to the future)
(Action) grabs his hoverboard and swoops off
KineticBug
(yesterday)
bolt-work
?
aldin
Hi, where do i enable small icons, which can be seen besides label, for e.g nautilusOpenInTerminal, i have it on Mint, it must be somewhere in gconf-editor? Please take look at this picture http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/5319/nosmallicons.png
KineticBug
05/07/2010
Was the date they set on the delorian (sp?) in back to the future
bolt-work
my screenshot says differently
KineticBug
or was it the 06?
smv
aldin, use gconf-editor, and change /desktop/gnome/interface/buttons_have_icons
bolt-work
hm.. come to think of it, he makes the trip several times, doesn't he?
my screenshot says 06 anyway
Selveste1
Hey, is there anyone of you that runs drbd on an LVM based Dom0.? to replica you harddrives or do you run with iSCSI.?
aldin
smv: did it doesnt show, perhaps i need to logout, brb
smv: actually this works, but thanks anyway, you helped me to locate it :)
/desktop/gnome/interface/menus_have_icons
smv
erm, i use both :))
aldin
actually i did checked them both
:)
thanks man
bye
smv
my pleasure
jargon-
i'm looking for a FOSS-based network authentication systems that requires users to have a valid authentication before they're able to access the wired and wifi networks. any recommendations? using firehol+squid and firewall+proxy.
xx1
jargon-: 802.1X + radius
unixp
i cant login into phpmyadmin ... i installed phpmyadmin then i opened it http://myip/phpmyadmin I get the login window, but i didnt declare a user or pw. How should i login?
jargon-
xx1: from what i'm reading radius is a protocol. any popular implementations?
petemc
jargon-: freeradius
jargon-
petemc: thanks
petemc
jargon-: you'll probably want something like coovachili to hook it all together too
coovachilli, even. the offshoot from the now defunct chillispot
jargon-
petemc: gotcha :-)
rical
anyone know how I can capture a telnet session to a file?
petemc
script?
Riviera
rical: also, many terminal emulators can write a logfile (see for example xterm's -l option)
unixp
how can i reset my mysql password for the phpmyadmin login?=
hannes__
i think i timed out
hi,any idea what might be causing this apt error? http://pastebin.com/PkFHxtQm
trying to install python-qt4 on armel sid
tejota
hello
does anybody know if there's a service for shutting down hard disks when theyre not in use
ive found hdparm
but i would like to stop sata drives too
is there a gui to ease the task?
dongs
tejota: sdparm? duno.
tejota
ok will try
thanks
:)
avar
Hi. I have some "The following partially installed packages will be configured:" (grub grub-pc
(sorry for the newline) ..but I can't install them due to limitations on the VPS, how do I remove them so that they're not partially installed anymore (and just use the old version)
I can block them from being upgraded again with apt pinning, but that doesn't help me with a package that's ready for configuration
datacrusher
hello everyone. i have a debian file server with samba, and its kinda old machine. I wanna install a new pc that i got here and migrate my current server to this one, is there a straight forward method to duplicate my server without lost its configuration?
im using debian lenny, updated from etch, 64 version
avar
copy over its configuration files and test it?
datacrusher
this server got 2 years, i will migrate to prevent hardware failure
bbd
datacrusher: use same hdd/installation
unixp
kann man irgendwie ausserhalb des Routermenüs noch mehr log Datein erhalten, wer sich zb. mit dem Router verbunden hat? Und wenn ja mit was und wie? Es ist ein Netgear WG111 Router
oh sry wron channel
vadi
What is the package to install a shell which is able to auto-hide its window when mouse focus is out?
d3x
vadi, yakuake?
bbd
you mean focus-follows-mouse feature?
vadi
bbd, I want a shell box with when I move mouse to top of window it show, and else it hides
thanks d3x, I am going to try that to check if it is what I am looking for
Bop
datacrusher, u can use some app like norton ghost
xx1
if you mean "hide"=="inactive"
Bop
there's some Open source apps to replicate OS
xx1
or focussed
d3x
Bop, you mean disk dump?
Bop
there's a live cd to do that
rgroid
hide never means inactive. hide means non visible.
Bop
cant remember name , but i think its not that , d3x
Tsakos
wow, lot's of people :D
Bop
well , dd should do the trick , with some hacks
vadi
rgroid, yep, I mean non visible
Tsakos
I'm trying to help a friend with a sound card problem he has.
but i don't really understand much from the dmesg output
the output is here: http://pastebin.com/VyuX8XjL if someone wants to help
lvh
hey
bbd
Tsakos: everything looks good. are you sure mixer levels are ok and not muted?
lvh
I just installed testing on my laptop. Just installed X; neither pointer input device works. Get the following error on boot; maybe related: kernel-provided name 'uinput' and NAME= 'input/uinput' disagree
That's from udev-work.
Bug reports appear to suggest bug is harmless and just a warning, so maybe unrelated.
cat /dev/input/mouse1 and /dev/input/mouse2 work fine.
b0nghitter
whats the best app to backup my main hdd to a secondary hdd?
krion
i got a sas card (amcc powerpc ppc405cr), i can't manage to get debian installer seen my hard drive
datacrusher
bbd, but i need to install the system again, im having a space shortage problem with my / folder
didnt separated /var from it, and created a very small size, im 98% with it
i think the best sollution is to do a fresh install and copy configuration files to the new machine
Tsakos
bbd: thanks for helping out.
bbd: but as he said me, sometimes sound work, sometimes not.
bbd
datacrusher: i'm against reinstalling, it's windows way. you can simply copy over files using cp/tar or partimage or some other partition/copy tool (can't remember).
datacrusher: otherwise you'll have to hunt every missing config file, every package, user etc..
Tsakos: "sometimes does not work" - that's really helpful :)
Tsakos
bbd: he restarted, and now all works fine.
jelly-one
Tsakos: if you're using ubuntu, ask in #ubuntu please
lvh
Whoops, wrong cable. Sorry if anyone responded while I vanished
krion
looks like it's indeed a 3ware 9690SA-4l, any review ?
aleray
hi, how can I find out what keymap I'm using ? (now that xorg.conf is gone)
jelly-one
krion, which debian release are you trying to install?
bbd
krion: i have this 9690SA-4I on one of servers. no complaints..
datacrusher
bbd, hmmm well, actually this installation is working. is there a way to simply create the partitions there and do a straight copy? how do i map the mounting partitions after?
Tsakos
jelly-one: well, isn't debian and ubuntu the same?
jelly-one
Tsakos: the answer is quite obvious, isn't it. No, they're not, else there'd be only one of those.
krion
jelly-one: lenny amd64, with a squeeze debian installer IIRC
but doesn't see the hard drive
Tsakos
thanks anyway..
krion
i supposed it's a 9690SA as it's what's marked on the invoice, but i see nothing on the card
jelly-one
krion, hm. So that's a fresh enough kernel on that installer. Have you tried the installer from /msg dpkg kmuto
bbd
datacrusher: hundreds of ways.. for example connect both HDDs and boot from live CD. mount old one on /mnt1, partition the new one as you wish, mount the whole structure on /mnt2. do cp -a /mnt1/* /mnt2
krion
jelly-one: no, i'm using pxe with debian official d-i
bbd
datacrusher: then have to play with bootloader which you're using. again easiest way would be to remove old hdd, live CD has some option like 'boot from first hdd', use it. then rerun lilo/grub/whatever
datacrusher: also check packages like partimage or fsarchiver, it could help
jelly-one
krion, you can't boot from local media?
krion
jelly-one: i could, but that's not the procedure i've to apply :D
i'll try again, thanks
jelly-one
!d-i
dpkg
5.0 lenny is now the "stable" Debian release (Feb 14, 2009). See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ . If you want to make custom install CDs, start with d-i. IRC: #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net. Also ask me about <errata>.
jelly-one
krion, ^^ the channel for installer issues
datacrusher
thanks bbd! ill check it out
bbd
krion: is raid already created on this controller. i mean any logical volumes?
Extreme-Dpup-484
i mounted a hard drive to a folder /media/harddisk How do i give that folder write permission?
jelly-one
Extreme-Dpup-484, which filesystem is used there?
Extreme-Dpup-484
ext3
passwordoff
Where to find the manual about netinst installation?
jelly-one
Extreme-Dpup-484: normal unix permissions apply then. Use chown and chmod at your discretion.
!tell passwordoff about i-g
Extreme-Dpup-484
so just chmod the folder as rw.. Is there a quick temporary method to make it writable?
i want this writable: /media/harddisk (mounted to hdc1)
jelly-one
Extreme-Dpup-484, writable for which user? the simplest thing is to chown the mount point to that user.
(Extreme-Dpup-484, do that after it's mounted)
Extreme-Dpup-484
it's already mounted.. Can i chown that from the console, or do i edit some file?
jelly-one
Extreme-Dpup-484, a terminal window is typically sufficient, and remember to do it as root
bbd
:)
jelly-one
!tell Extreme-Dpup-484 about permissions
Extreme-Dpup-484
i ran out of disk space on my hard drive...Trying to expand my home directory by symlinking a folder within to a second hard drive..
thanks.
djura-san
o/
panfist
i'm having some package trouble; i know some files are included in a package, but they're not showing up on my system after installing the package
qwd
Debian Sid AMD64. Is it possible (a good idea) to install snes9x-gtk from https://launchpad.net/~bearoso/+archive/ppa since snes9x-gtk isn't in the Debian repo for AMD64?
jeff_hann
panfist, what package?
panfist
slapd
pardon me for asking in #debian when it's actually an ubuntu specific question, but really it's a dpkg/aptitude question...why is the package reporting successful installation when these files are missing?
jeff_hann
panfist, so are you running ubuntu?
panfist
yes
jeff_hann
panfist, #ubuntu
panfist
there's no #dpkg, #APT, ...
really i want to know: why would a pacakge install quietly without installing all the files that are in it?
jeff_hann
panfist, I'll only say this once : join #ubuntu and ask.
qwd
!based on debian
yareckon
anyone have a recommendation for a 4 drive external HD bay? Looking for a USB one with JBOD mode to use in a software raid, not one with an integrated RAID controller
dpkg
Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't know what changes were made by your distribution and it probably falls short of Debian's standards. #debian only supports Debian; you should respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
yareckon
^sorry, that should have a ? at the end