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nago
My desktops run W7 and Win2003. Laptop is Vista/Ubuntu, Netbook is Ubuntu NBR, Server is F11
f_newton
I cant wait for el6
DiscordianUK
Not having net connectivity at the vts was a pain
akjeff1
how long should it take that teardrop to fill up
BobLfoot
osubuck: have you looked at http://rpmfusion.org/Howto/nVidia/
f_newton
DiscordianUK, I usually use my broadband card for "away" games... it has autostarted since f10
mharris
The thing I'm most wanting EL6 for, is the fact that the OS supplied list of packages will likely be a bit bigger, and much newer which will make building addon repositories easier, so there should be more packages available for EL6 than what is easily buildable for EL5 right now without ransacking half the OS.
akjeff1
It seems to lock up and not move after a couple seconds
grifo74
it's possible make live usb with fedora 12 dvd iso?
f_newton
akjeff1, you have a hardware issue there
the dvd? whoa
mharris
Also hoping for more mature X hardware support
f_newton
I doubt it
well night campers ... dont forget to brush your teeth
nago
when is EL6 due out?
mharris
nago: Red Hat doesn't discuss it officially. You'll find estimates of anywhere from a few months ago, to 2011 if you google around.
Most from people who "think they know", but no concrete answers. :)
mutk
It is in 'active development' :)
osubuck
yum --enablerepo=rp*g install akmod-nvidia-173xx xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-173xx-libs.i686 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-173xx-libs.x86_64 if i don't have a 64bit computer would i leave out the last bit?
nago
I should hurry up and take that RHCE exam. Don't want to have to end up taking it on 6.-
mharris
I think it will be no sooner than 9-12 months from the first beta release date, but it could be longer if Red Hat has a good reason to hold it back.
akjeff1
well it runs ok with 8 and instaled just fine... so .. gues I will look at another version to install .. thanks
mutk
nago, Why would you be worried about that
grifo74
when i try install fedoara 12 in my pc in portuguese language they give a error ????????why in inglish install fine
nago
because I am horrified of that exam o_O
osubuck
yum --enablerepo=rp*g install akmod-nvidia-173xx xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-173xx-libs.i686 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-173xx-libs.x86_64 if i don't have a 64bit computer would i leave out the last bit?
BobLfoot
osubuck: read the link I sent you - FX5's are not supported by the xorg-X11 drivers in F12
mutk
nago, Heh. Well the technological changes from RHEL5 to RHEL6 will be big.. But then we had bigger changes from RHEL3 to 4..
mharris
News articles from over a year ago suggest that RHEL 6 beta would be Q1/Q2 of 2009, but I haven't seen any RHEL6 beta release yet.
osubuck
BobLfoot: then why does this person make a tutorial specifically for F12 and the FX cards if they indeed don't work?
nago
I learned on 4/5.. I just want to get a cert before I transfer schools so I can at least get my foot in the door as an intern somewhere
mharris
IMHO, RHEL4 was the first "good" RHEL release.
nago
maybe plugging in cables, getting coffee for people...
aim low!
BobLfoot
osubuck: if you fond a tutorial follow it
mharris
I really never cared for RHEL 3 or 2.1, probably because of the software maintenance headaches
mutk
mharris, It took big steps towards seriously scalable for sure..
mutk
mharris, RHEL4 that is..
osubuck
BobLfoot: i was going to get the akmod i686
mharris
mutk: yep, each new major release seems so much more refined and more like an integrated OS too. Older releases seem more like random collections of software aggregated together.
BobLfoot
osubuck I used the akmod ; kmod combo on F11 with good success but ahve not jumped to F12 yet on my FX5200 system sorry
mutk
mharris, As well as the x86_64 as a platform matured massively with each new release.
osubuck
BobLfoot: well i have some free time to waste to i might try this tutorial one more time
mutk
x86_64 is completely usable as a desktop OS now. Appart from a few oulying apps
mharris
mutk: indeed. I'm so glad to see that x86_64 nowadays is practically as solid and reliable as x86 too, with almost all software being available for it too, or the ability to run the odd x86 thing where an x86_64 build isn't avail.
BobLfoot
osubuck: let us know how it works and the party line is at the link I provided
nago
you mean x64 isn't voodoo?
mutk
I'd suggest that x86_64 is actually more stable than 32bit can ever be. Simply due to the memory layout.
mharris
I do still notice the occasional x86_64 app glitch that isn't reproducable on the 32bit build, but they're fewer and further between nowadays.
vlc sometimes has some 64bit issues
mutk
nago, Nope it is dime a dozen now..
nago
grumble VLC grumble
mharris
nago: x86_64 has ran pretty awesome since about Fedora 7 or 8
mutk
(Action) will never consider running 32bit Fedora ever again..
nago
mharris, mostly joking. I'm running the 64bit build here at home, works good. only hiccup I ran into was running the source engine for a dedicated server, distributed only as x86 bin
mharris
I've got one AMD64 box running 32bit right now, but when it is next upgraded it will go back to x86_64 and remain.
nago
just had to figure out which 32bit lib packages to grab
mharris
Every new Linux install I do on any AMD64 capable hardware from now on will be an x86_64 installation also. Only exception might be a 32bit install just for software testing/compat.
osubuck
BobLfoot_AFK: wish me luck
mharris
nago: yep, or package it in rpm format :)
That's what I always do, even for commercial stuff where there's no source avail.
NoSource rpm, and ldd is my friend ;)
AndyCap
mharris: if only the 64-bit atoms were widespread too
pk__
i used netbootin to make a bootable f12 pen drive
nago
oh, a friend takes care of the Team Fortress 2 server, he just whines at me when it breaks
I guess I'd make it an RPM if I knew how
pk__
anaconda starts then some iso 9660 could not copy image something error omes
help
eross
trying to play quakelive, selinux is blocking me, said some python code is trying to do a create and then something about writing to my home directory in a hidden folder the /home/[name]/.[folder]
mharris
AndyCap: yeah, it's kind of lame that they started making 32bit-only CPUs again.
nago
oh yah... I have a 32bit atom :(
I didn't realize it was 32bit until after I got it. I just had assumed since it didn't mention arch it was naturally 64bit
whoops
mharris
It's only a matter of time until all desktop apps use more than 4GB of RAM each though, from having been rewritten in python+ruby+java, so no worries.
mutk
heh
mharris
gnome-calculator, now written in ruby! 6GB RSS!
AndyCap
"x86-64 is so far only activated for the Atom 230 and 330 desktop models."
nago
4GB each o_O ... I imagine someday that will happen but I suppose the bets are for when that'd happen...
mutk
(Action) seems to always gravitate to using C ..
mharris
mutk: +1 brother! :)
pk__
please somebody or i will have to moveonto ubuntu
eross
i dont think it's letting me install adobe flash plugin for firefox, even though I jump through the hoops and do a manual install and it says it's already installed (after I installed it)
mutk
I hack away at Python for some things when it is quick and dirty. But I always feel better doing it properly in C..
AndyCap
nago: yesterday, since My Xorg, Firefox, gnome-screensaver, gnome-keyring and gnome-system-monitor gladly sucks up about 4GB after some days.
and firefox is the smalles of them.
nago
that's not 4GB/ea though :D ... but firefox is the smallest you say?
mutk
I just love those elf binaries :)
eross
pk__ I just came from ubuntu, I came here for a challenge which it is working out to be
nago
firefox ... NOT being the ram hog?
how magical :D
AndyCap
pk__: it's not really clear what you're trying to do.
nago: more annoyed at gnome-screensaver sucking up 900Mbyte.
and I'm sure they'd all grow to 4Gb if I had 16Gb of ram
pk__
i made a bootable pen drive
then i am installing fedora
but unable to install
is it enough?
nago
AndyCap, I dislike gnome-screensaver for far more superficial reasons, but I suppose it's always nice to know that It is terrible anyway
eross
pk__ how come you can't install to the pen drive, what message are you getting
pk__
i am not installing it to pen drive
i am installing from a pen drive
nago
and anaconda gave you an error regarding something to do with 'iso9660'?
pk__
ok i do it no step by step and then will tell you
nago
in my tiny uneducated brain, I am thinking that anaconda is looking for a CD and not finding one, or something of the sort ...
pk__
i have a pen drive which i made using unetbootin and fedora 12 iso file
nago
but the exact error message will help.
rubyonrails3
pk__: you using dvd ?
nago
he's using a pen drive.
rubyonrails3
nago: i know but dvd or livecd he is using
pk__
first fedora copyright screen
i pressed next
finding storage drives
hostname
i put localhost
then selected area
rubyonrails3
pk__: you going right
pk__
now partition time
rubyonrails3
pk__: tell about your parition
pk__
it is showing sda and sdb
sda is hard disk which i want to format completely and make deafult partition
rubyonrails3
ya sda is hard drive and sdb will be flash
pk__: means sdb will be pen drive
pk__
sdb is flash from which i an installing
rubyonrails3
ya right pk__
pk__: are you formating every thing ?
Azaryah
had a ton of errors earlier that forced me to reinstall because I could NOT access anything, not even through a virtual terminal
I've written down the errors if you would like them
rubyonrails3
Azaryah: what are they ?
Azaryah
I received all of them after rebooting
rubyonrails3
Azaryah: mention some so others can resolve your problems
Azaryah
first error I received: Could not update ICEauthority file /home/Azaryah/.ICEauthority
pk__
sorry net disconnect
rubyonrails3
pk__: no worries
pk__: so you have done partiton
pk__
in the first list box
rubyonrails3
pk__: choose custom layout
Azaryah
after clicking okay I received this next error: There is a problem with the configuration server (/usr/libsec/gonf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256)
after clicking okay on that error, i received this next one: Nautilus could not create the following required folders: /home/Azaryah/Desktop, /home/Azaryah/.nautilus
rubyonrails3
Azaryah: did you installed after formating ?
Azaryah
After I clicked okay on that, Nothing popped up. Oh, and this happened AFTER I tried to log in
Yeah. That was my third reinstall lol
rubyonrails3
Azaryah: one solution is to make a new user
Azaryah
okay. well, here's what happened. I went into a virtual terminal
pk___
yes and then in custom layout?
Azaryah
and tried to login that way and it said there was no home directory
and it gave a a bash line
rubyonrails3
pk__: tell how much you want for fedora in gb ?
Azaryah
how do I create a new user under virtual terminal
pk___
whole of it
114270 mb
sniffit
Azaryah,
su
rubyonrails3
Azaryah: beign a super user
useradd user_name
passwd user_name
pk___:
sniffit
adduser -m -s /bin/bash <insert username>
rubyonrails3
pk___: do you have to save some data or not ?
Azaryah
useradd user_name passwd user_name, then adduser -m -s /bin/bash <insert username>
sniffit
Azaryah, nope
rubyonrails3
pk___: delete your all drives first (You will lost all of your data )
pk__
no
sniffit
the command i gave will create a user, a shell and creates a home directory for that user
rubyonrails3
than click new and create a /boot partiton of 500mb
sniffit
passwd username is to change the passwd of that username
Azaryah
okay. then I can login in from there?
understood
pk__
wait
rubyonrails3
pk__: k
Azaryah
okay. so what happened to my other user. I was logged in, when I learned I couldn't access anything, so I rebooted, and logged in, and got all those errors
sniffit
Azaryah, no idea ... you can try as a superuser doing this command ls -l /home
rubyonrails3
Azaryah: they are safe don't worry
sniffit
and see if there's a directory of the other user is there
Raptor32
hello there!
Azaryah
understood. what does that command do
Raptor32
I'm new to fedora
rubyonrails3
Azaryah: list users home dir
Azaryah
okay
Raptor32
I'd like to know how to read the message from "Leave Message" operation in screensaver
deco
where can i see a list of broadcom cards supported by fedora 12's open broadcom firmware ?
sniffit
Azaryah, ls is the equivalent of dir of DOS commands
Raptor32
somebody ?
sniffit
@saylucky open broadcom firmware
fedbot
open: http://www.broadcom.com/support/ (this is a google 'I feel lucky' search result)
Azaryah
understood. How can I move a repo from my downloads folde /etc/yum.reps.dr to the
blah..sorry from downloads folder to /etc/yum.repos.d
Raptor32
COuld somebody plz help ?
I'd like to know how to read the message from "Leave Message" operation in screensaver
rubyonrails3
Raptor32: i think when you leave some message when you login in back you get that message
Raptor32
im not gettng it
how does it appear ?
in a box ?
rubyonrails3
Raptor32: i meant it just diplay like flash message
Raptor32
oh.
nothing of that sort is happending.
rubyonrails3
Raptor32: wait i try on pc
pk
the installer has tries to mount image #1 but cannot find it on hard drive please copy this image to the drive and click retry
rubyonrails3
pk: you using dvd or cd ( i know pen drive but what you put on pen drive )
pk_
the installer has tries to mount image #1 but cannot find it on hard drive please copy this image to the drive and click retry [14:47] <pk> missing iso 9660 image