IRC Archive / Freenode / #latex / 2010 / June / 18 / 2
Zubro
Uh, sry, that was a misunderstanding, i used my old code, which had a extra \\ at the end of the last line before the centering-group, thx a lot
|Steve|
np
The documentation for \centering (such as it is) is on page 206 of source2e. Run texdoc source2e and search the resultant pdf for centering. It's probably not very enlightening.
Zubro
k,thx, it is common LaTeX-behaviour, or is it sort of strange, when in it comes to using \centering in a own group just for text?, when you use it in a figure, table or what so ever -enviroment it is understandable, but in that case...
|Steve|
I'm not sure I understand the question.
It makes sense that the text would be in its own paragraph since it is changing how the paragraph is laid out.
And it makes sense that the paragraph would have to end before the } which would cause the centering to no longer be in effect.
Zubro
k, i thought the pure use of {} tells the command just to function inside the brackets, and i wouldn't need extra \par.
|Steve|
Braces are just grouping.
Er, just grouping and scope.
So {\centering foo}bar means that all of the parameters set by \centering (such as \leftskip and \rightskip) and the definitions it made (such as \\) go back to being what they were before the group when the group ends.
If the paragraph ends after the group, then it acts like a normal paragraph.
Zubro
yeah, my understanding was analog to {\Huge text} or {\sffamily text}, i don't need \par before and after that neither, it only affects the "text" inside the grouping.
|Steve|
Of course. \Huge doesn't do anything to paragraphs.
Paragraphs aren't broken into lines until the entire paragraph has been read in. The parameters that control how it is typeset (such as \leftskip and \rightskip) aren't examined until that time.
iMario
is there any possibility to instruct longtable-enviroment not to break page, when only one (or arbitrary number) row is following or when only one line is on beginning page. Surpressing a pagebreak is clear, but is there a possitive formulated instruction like: "Only if there are a minimum of 2 lines on a page break page in table, else put the whole table on new page)?

Zubro
iMario, i don't know it for certain by longtable-enviroments, but when you try to supress the problem with normal textlines, you write in the praemble \clubpenalty = 10000, \widowpenalty = 10000, \displaypenalty = 10000
maybe it works for longtables to...
|Steve|
I doubt it.
Why would you set the displaypenalty to 10000, though?
iMario
I try to check this out. the problem i see is, that if there is a head which is 2 or more rows it could fail although it could be treated as text... i will try, thanks
Zubro
its the common algorithm to suppress clubs and widows, i thought. http://www.jr-x.de/publikationen/latex/tipps/schusterhuren.html
pardon me, it should be \displaywidowpenalty
|Steve|
\clubpenalty is the penalty assessed to orphans. \widowpenalty to widows. Neither have anything to do with displays though.
sum
|Steve|: right, i meant to say \subfloat but i didn't remember it was in the subfig package. and yes, i also have no need to use minipage yet.
bobthemilkman
I'm having a hell of a time trying to get the siunitx package to compile. I'm running texlive-full from the ubuntu repositories. Is ubuntu/texlive really bad at keeping things up to date? Is there an easier way to get the siunitx package to compile?
I'm seriously having to manually manage the dependencies of several CTAN packages. :(
a-v
hmm, I want to align several subfigures such that certain special points (for which the x coordinate is known) in these figures are at the page center ( http://codepad.org/L9q1AZhR ). Is there a better way other than padding with empty \makebox or similar?
bobthemilkman
Well, after grabbing about 7 or 8 additional packages (including major ones like xpackages and expl3), and resolving all the dependency errors myself, I finally got siunitx to compile. Shouldn't there be an easier way to do this? Like some sort of latex distribution that is up to date with CTAN?
a-v
bobthemilkman, do you have texlive-science installed? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=siunitx.sty&mode=filename&suite=lucid
bobthemilkman
a-v: Yes. I have texlive-full, which also has texlive-science. (Also, I double-checked just now.)
That version is broken, I believe.
Oh hey, that works just great.
It turns out I had previously not had that installed, so I attempted to compile the latest from CTAN, failed miserably, but I still had the .sty in my ~/texmf, which texhash was pointing towards. So despite having that package installed, it wasn't being used. Turns out it wasn't ubuntu or texlive, but my own problem.
Gonna just rm -rf my ~/texmf folder. I think that'll make things work a lot better.
Marchitos
i am getting this: there is no new line to end
what am i missing?
marcellus
don't use \\
Marchitos
ah okay
marcellus
you separate paragraphs with empty lines
Protogenes
hey |Zz| are you there?
CheeseyFighter
Hi there =)
Maybe someone of you might help me, I have no idea how to solve this one. I'm trying to get a ¤-sign into a formular. I'm using \begin{align} (from the amsmath usepackage) and tried it with \texteuro, \text{\euro} and \mbox{\euro}, neither of those worked. :( Does anyone know how to get this symbol into a formular?
if it helps, here is the code-part where I'd like to get it into...:
\begin{align*}
k_{Pump} = \frac{\alpha_{Pump} \cdot a_{Pump} + c_{Pump}}{T_{m}} + b_{Pump} + d_{Pump} = \frac{0,046 550 \frac{1}{a} \cdot 3300\frac{\euro}{kW} + 30\frac{\euro}{kWa}}{1800\frac{h}{a}} + \frac{0,09\frac{\euro}{kWh}}{0,87 \cdot 0,91} + 0,001\,5\frac{\euro}{kWh}
\end{align*}
kahen
CheeseyFighter: and you have loaded textcomp?
,,lshort mentions some packages that contains a command for the euro symbol, iirc
fsbot
lshort -- a (Not So) Short Introduction to LaTeX at http://tobi.oetiker.ch/lshort/
kahen
and i'd try \text{\texteuro}

jmd
Can someone remember the command to make utf8 characters acceptable to LaTeX ?
CheeseyFighter
kahen: Yeah, I have loaded textcomp
\usepackage[ngerman]{babel}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[ansinew]{inputenc}
\usepackage{lmodern}
\usepackage{textcomp}
\usepackage{graphicx}
\usepackage{amsmath}
wow, thank you very much kahen, now it's working for me
What's the point in formular to use \text{\texteuro} ?
is it a text-environment in formulars?
kahen
\texteuro only works outside math (i _think_). so we use \text (from amsmath) to get into text mode
also, \euro is from the eurosym package
Chaze
how can i make an ellipsis used in quotes? like "someone said [...] this"
kahen
Chaze: \ldots?
Chaze
kahen: and the square brackets?
kahen
jmd: \usepackage[utf8x]{inputenc}\usepackage{ucs}
iMario
[\dots]
kahen
Chaze: [\ldots{}]?
Chaze
the [ ] don't render as text
CheeseyFighter
Thank you very much kahen =)
You helped me alot =)
jmd
kahen: Thanks. What does the ucs package do?
kahen
it's a bit cargo-cultish... ,,lshort said to use it, iirc
fsbot
I heard lshort is a (Not So) Short Introduction to LaTeX at http://tobi.oetiker.ch/lshort/
kahen
that's another option btw. with unicode support, you should be able to enter ¬ directly into the document
oh. he left
jmd
What's the proper way to do German double quotes?
Riviera
jmd: see the documentation of the babel package, the chapter on german
jmd: or the l2kurz document, section "Anführungszeichen", if you prefer a German document
sum
i am using a class derived from book and i have \parts in my document. the parts should have appendices each, how to achieve that? usgin \appedinx makes *every* chapter afterwards an appendix :(
hm, i think i have to stick to making it a \chapter{Appendix} and using \section and \subsection in there..
kahen
iirc there is something for doing that... i think it's titletoc, but i'm not sure
i remember reading some documentation a few days ago about just that. can't remember which it was :(
sum: \usepackage{appendix}?
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=appendix
xaxes
hey there,.. How to set a String in enumeration-item, like : Step 1), Step 2) .. and so on?
kahen
woah. changing \columnsep when using nested multicols (don't ask...) does _not_ work the way you'd expect
iMario
@xaxes \renewcommand{\labelenumi}{Step \arabic{enumi})}
should work
sobczyk
hi, anyone knows how to combine [fragile] and [t] in beamer
Quanta
hi, i have a problem with my example, http://pastebin.tlhiv.org/ilFvhznN, i would like to strike out "Don't handle" in my second frame, but it doent do it. any suggestions?
sobczyk
or how to align inputlisting to top in a frame :)
xaxes
iMario: thanks :)
kahen
there is a package that can make a frame around the various elements of a page? e.g. the footer, the text, the header, the margin etc.
oh right. showframe
litb
hello all
once i'm knowing the beamer package, i'm seeing beamer presentations all over at university!
casdf
hi, is there any way to integrate latex with ms onenote?
Andre_Re2
hi, i need a little help with the input command
i don't know why but it only works with the first file
if i include a second file, it ignores the source
ok, found the problem
seems that - in filenames are not allowed
thrashold
Hello. What's the easiest way to create graphs with international characters as node and edge labels?
AlmostObsolete
I want to change how the table of contents page is laid out, specifically what I want to do right now is remove the "Contents" heading at the top
sum
kahen: yes, thats something worth taking a look at. thanks for the hint!