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or use the one in openwin
jamesd2
Necrocow, what version are you using? ssh comes with solaris 9 and 10...
Necrocow
ssh but I don't see sshd (sshd, sshd_config, etc) unless it's somewhere I'm not used to
jamesd2
/etc/ssh/ssh*
Necrocow
yeah /etc/ssh/ is all there, sorry, was remembering wrong. Theres just not sshd anywhere that I can see
and I don't see anything in /etc/init,d
.d
jamesd2
solaris is moving towards using SMF, its much more powerful that init.d files...
svcadm enable|disable|resstart ssh
svcs -x to see servicest hat have failed
svcs -a to see a list of all services
MindDrive
http://sawfish.wikia.com/wiki/Window-size-presets - might this help for the Terminal question?
jamesd2
/usr/lib/ssh/sshd
AJC_Z0
What might make a difference to terminals in gnome on different platforms is termcap vs. terminfo support
Necrocow
ok that started sshd and it seesm to be working, thanks. How do I make it start everytime
MindDrive
Once it's enabled, it will start again after every reboot.
jamesd2
Necrocow, svcadm enable ssh is permanent until you disable it
Necrocow
AJC_Z0: any idea on how to make it always start with a certain size (ie, 132x50 instead of 80x24)
and if it's not to much trouble, how to get home/end/pgup/phdown to work right; I'm so used to using home/end to go between the ends of the line and the pg keys to go between the ends of the bash history buffer
jamesd2: between reboots?
ah I see
jamesd2: thanks
jamesd2
Necrocow, yes SMF handles services startup.. by enabling it you make it permanent, and smf also detects services that can stat up in paralel making booting quicker
Necrocow
nice
AJC_Z0
Necrocow: I set X resources in my X resources file. See xrdb(1). Gnome probably has some database driven XML file hidden nine directories under one of five configuration dote directories, but should respect X resources
jamesd2
and should a service fail smf will attempt to restart it a few times before putting it in to maintaince mode, svcs -x lists services that are in maintaince mode.. great for 2 am pages... login .. run svcs -x see what has failed
AJC_Z0
If you're not familiar with X resource syntax, see the various resource file in wherever app-defaults is these days
Necrocow
AJC_Z0: ie ~/.Xdefaults ? I completely forgot about that
AJC_Z0: I remember having to set that up once for rxvt to work right on another system many moons ago
AJC_Z0
Necrocow: Yes, exactly that, but you should understand how resources are managed what when what changes take effect
So why aren't you using rxvt-unicode?
Stric
gnome-terminal doesn't care about X resources
like the rest of the gnome apps, as they don't use libXt
AJC_Z0
Stric: If true, then that would be sufficient reason to not use it
Necrocow
AJC_Z0: I may consider it, I just wanted to see if I could make the default term more usable :)
Stric: oh. so how do I set what size I want (ie 132x50) then?
Stric
Necrocow: Have you checked Preferences?
Necrocow
Stric: and overide home/end/pgdn/pgup
axisys
can I run this mount -F ufs -o remount,logging on a partition or do I need to edit vfstab and reboot to activate it .. this is for solaris 8 and I did not find anythign on docs.sun.com about not running it on active partitions
Necrocow
the oly prefs I see in it's menus are PRofiles but theres n osetting for changing keys or setting the size
AJC_Z0
As for handling funny key strokes, any one or more of at least five different components may be involved. Good luck with that
kop__
got titanium ??
AJC_Z0
axisys: remount will do the trick. See output of "mount"
axisys: So why are you both running an unsupported platform and trying to make changes to it?
kop__
we're all from such diverse backrounds and experience I thought I'd give it a shot
Necrocow
AJC_Z0: actually I just want to make those keys act normal, in this term pgup/down causes the scrols bar to scroll up and down
kop__
looking for like 1" x 6" bar stock
Necrocow
and home/end move the scroll bar end to end
it's like it not even sendi ng those key strokes to the term itself, but just catching it and using it for it's own means
axisys
AJC_Z0: we are slowly deprecating those solaris 8 boxes.. still we have few that we are responsible for and among those few never had journaling on and bitten by fsck in the middle of the night
AJC_Z0: thanks for your help
AJC_Z0: will the remount work even for root (/)
?
Necrocow
it's most annoying when pgup/down don't work in vim
ditto for home/end
AJC_Z0
Necrocow: I'm used to shift-pgup/down for that. Try various shift/alt/meta combos
Necrocow
is there no way to change it though?
AJC_Z0
axisys: It should be for obvious reasons I haven't done that in a while
s/be/but/
Stric
don't have any sun provided g-t around, so I can't check that specifically.. but my debian lenny g-t doesn't grab pgup/dn by default, but uses shift-* for that..
Sn0wball
hello all
Im getting this in one of my solaris boxes: /dev/vx/dsk/dbadg/v_aaa_data
2031711 18446744073709535242 1987134 936021843030584% /aaa/data
bensons
thats just cool :)
Sn0wball
this is a solaris 8
hehe
:D
im looking for a reported bug regarding veritas 3.5 and solaris 8
didnt find anything so far
Stric
Did you check with sun or veritas?
ImmerDerBest
Sn0wball: it's not cool .. it's utterly sad
Sn0wball
didnt engage the vendors for the moment
bensons
ImmerDerBest: sure its 64bit aware :)
Sn0wball
and cant umount the filesystem for the moment
anyone seen somthing like this?
ImmerDerBest
heh bensons .. sure ;)
bensons
ive seen funny uids over nfs but never such df outputs
Sn0wball
Im afraid that vendors will suggest patching, but im looking for an already reported bug to save time
Stric
Sn0wball: It would probably help if you said what filesystem as well ("veritas 3.5" .. company name, version.. no mention of _which_ veritas product v3.5.. maybe vxvm, maybe vxfs..)
ImmerDerBest
a lot of people claims in IRC totally driven things .. showing logs and whatever .. few minutes ago claimed one guy sshd segfault in #suse bensons
Stric
I see english words, but not english sentences there..
Sn0wball
ImmerDerBest: Im not hoping to get magic from here, just asking if anyone saw this
ImmerDerBest
Sn0wball: np dude .. just ask. ;)
Sn0wball
ImmerDerBest: :)
bensons
ImmerDerBest: segfault and sshd is kind of different to the thing Sn0wball posted
ImmerDerBest
Sn0wball: i am very glad that your Q: is not from the UFO pool just today .. and it's fair then if not :D
bensons: hmm. i have never seen output like Sn0wballs one as well as sshd segfault since 90's on various *NIX systems
Sn0wball
I saw sshd segfaults but not in solaris boxes, the problem was related to wrong libraries versions
ImmerDerBest
oh .. i don't have a luck :/
bensons
right :) but a borked df is more likely, especially if there is solaris and vxvm in the gmae :)
*game
anyway
Sn0wball
just for the record, this is what i have:
# modinfo | grep vx
19 10200e7a 11db80 241 1 vxio (VxVM 3.5s_p4.5 I/O driver)
21 10309a4d 1c31c 240 1 vxdmp (VxVM 3.5s_p4.5 DMP Driver)
22 103237d1 847 242 1 vxspec (VxVM 3.5s_p4.5 control/status)
# uname -a
SunOS host01 5.8 Generic_117350-46 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Fire
ImmerDerBest
Sn0wball: probably it's some kind of reward - just for have a fun - for your bloody money spent by vxvm :D
Stric
Sn0wball: so you're probably using UFS then..
Sn0wball
Stric: yes, UFS
ImmerDerBest: hehehe
erkules
Any recommendation for HA on Solaris? Someone recommended wackamole wich I never heard. And their is Veritas and Solaris Cluster. As a Linux guy I don't know any of them.
Hmm looks like Sn0wball uses Veritas :)
ImmerDerBest
Sn0wball: yeah ^^ .. it has met a point .. you're giggling .. so everything is good then
erkules: for HA of *what?
erkules
ImmerDerBest: yes
ImmerDerBest
HA for *yes .. interesting
erkules
ImmerDerBest: ups sorry. basicly nothing more then VIP-management
Sn0wball
erkules: That server is using sun cluster :)
erkules
Sn0wball: ok thx:)
mustang
Sn0wball: perhaps consider unmounting and checking the filesystem?
erkules: VCS is pretty nice. Runs on Lonicks too :)
Stric
Sn0wball: one guess is that you've got some file system corruption on your hand.. if you had run zfs instead, it would have saved your ass..
mustang
Stric: he's on Solaris 8. Try again.
Sn0wball
Stric: may be, this server is going to be upgraded in the near future, now it has sol 8
erkules
mustang: hmm on benefit of veritas would be having the same pice of software on solaris and linux. Anyone recommend wackamole?
Stric
mustang: Yeah, I saw that.. my statement still holds :)
Sn0wball
mustang: Im almost sure that a reboot or an umount will bring the df output to its normal value, but I have to schedule that task, cant do it right now
ImmerDerBest
Stric: zfs causes sometimes unpredictable umems' errors ..
mustang
Sn0wball: you should at least be able to check the filesystem. there'll be a switch to fsck_vxfs that tells it not to go trying to fix anything.
AJC_Z0
The best advice for your unsupported platform is to LEAVE IT ALONE, BUILD THE REPLACEMENT AND RETIRE IT
Sn0wball
erkules: wackamole, what the hell is that? (sorry for my ignorance)
AJC_Z0
Your effort to fix it is a far greater threat to its function than leaving it in its current state
Stric
ImmerDerBest: unpredictable umem errors?
Sn0wball
BTW, I've just found something similar for solaris 10: http://sunsolve.sun.com/search/document.do?assetkey=1-26-102285-1, but in this case with SVM
Stric
same UFS
Sn0wball
(hate Oracle logo!! why they had to use it into sunsolve!!!) :(
AJC_Z0
Because Oracle OWNS it
Sn0wball
AJC_Z0: oh, i know... just trying to resist world domination
AJC_Z0: just joking, :)
AJC_Z0
Sn0wball: I used to have an account at the widespread US national bank, Nationsbank. They were bought by Bank Of America and one day (and I mean in one day), they disappeared. There was no Nationsbank or sign of its present or past existence, just Bank of America
I heard from a source that they even tried (and mostly succeeded) to take all the staff's branded stuff
ImmerDerBest
Stric: yes .. we have had zfs for a message store backend with a lot of i/o operations .. it failed several times and one could say that more often then even bleeding edge filesystem would fail
Stric: the *umen based errors was a leitmotiv in all fails
wuffi600
hi.
when having a HAStoragePlus-Resource on sc32u2, how can i change the name of the diskset to use with this resource? I guess it can be changed with "clrg set ...", but how?
cfs
(Action) senses the imminent release of 10u9
Alasdairrr
I love the way it takes 5 days for Sun to process an order for a support contract
Because people don't need patches straight away. Why would they? Why would someone buy a support contract and want to immediately download patches.
zetan
you're lukcy! it took me a WEEK
cfs
You two complain too much, it took me 5 years! (not really, I lie, I'm a liar)
Alasdairrr
I don't have mine yet. I've just paid for it.
haha
I want to knee Sun in the testicles right now.
cfs
You mean Oracle
Alasdairrr
No, Oracle will get rid of all this bullsh*t.
cfs
there is no Sun, only Larry Zuul.
Alasdairrr
Oracle know people want to buy things!
cfs
(Action) thinks of more Ghostbusters<>Oracle/Sun acquisition jokes
Sn0wball
wonder what will happen with opensolaris
Alasdairrr
I wonder what will happen with Solaris Next
zetan
Solaris Axed
dude Unbreakeable Enterprise Linux will beat solaris!
cfs
Solaris 11, not 11
hahaha, nononono, ZuulLarry is going to keep Solaris
meanwhile, anyone know when 10u9 is going to FCS?
anyone? bueller? bueller?
Alasdairrr
Larry hailed Solaris as the best UNIX on the market.
I heard S10u9 will come out either this month, next month or the month after.
cfs
if anything opensolaris is going to get axed.
ponyofdeath
hi, what is the proper way to install the en_US.utf8 locale?
cfs
Alasdairrr 5, that does not program.
ponyofdeath lemme see if there is an install cluster.
ponyofdeath
cfs: when i did it using pkgadd from the cd last time it pulled all sort of bloat like gnome and gtk
cfs
there might be deps from that cluster to GNOME.
I'll pvtmsg you a list of packages from 10u8
ponyofdeath
ty
cfs
well actually you can look for your self /path/to/so10u8media/Solaris_10/Product/.clustertoc
search for CLUSTER=SUNWCutf8
Sn0wball
zetan: man, Unbreakeable Linux is just an unbranded Red Hat linux
cfs
I mean from the command line, besides sort order, there really isn't much magic to the en_US.UTF-8 locale than C
Sn0wball
zetan: or centos, whatever you like most
cfs
Redhat makes me vomits in my mouth a little. (sorry for the visual)
ponyofdeath
cfs: problem im having is the currency issue
Sn0wball
cfs: thats ok, but Oracle's attitude on selling a copy of red hat is just disgusting
cfs: i mean, worst
ponyofdeath
cfs: seems our java apps rely on locale to get currency and if its not en_US it shows up as USD as oppose to $
Alasdairrr
Oracle "stealing" RHEL was rather "vulgar"
It's the sort of thing most normal companies wouldn't do because they follow some sort of vague code of ethics, at least for PR reasons
Sn0wball
Alasdairrr: yes, it was, and in addition they called that "oracle enterprise linux" puagggjjj :P
Alasdairrr
Oracle doesn't seem to care if people hate them
cfs
<ZuulLarry> ARE YOU A GOD?
Alasdairrr
I'll be sad if OpenSolaris gets axed. It was finally starting to congeal into something vaguely usable on the server side
Although AI is still a joke
cfs
and a horrible movie to boot
Alasdairrr
haha :)
I cried pathetically at the end of that film.
(But I didn't cry at Titanic)
ponyofdeath
cfs: do u know off hand how i can change the currency to $ without messing with locales
Alasdairrr
Google?
http://developers.sun.com/dev/gadc/faq/locale.html
ponyofdeath
Alasdairrr: should java be able to set its one locale and not be dependant on the os for currency setting
Alasdairrr
can't you do something like "LC_ALL=en_US.ISO8859-1 java myapp"
to run your java app with a particular locale
cfs
ponyofdeath, hrm, I suggest studying locale(5)
and specify explicity