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Maarten
hsa2: I just use the Pidgin windows executable.
JaHoOveEr69
Maarten: its not porn
and even though its streaming this sensitive information comes up, remains the same for anywhere between 5 -> 60seconds and then changes
and its on the same area of the screen all the time even when it changes
Viking667
bah. Missed the keyboard prompt. gotta reboot again.
Does this CDROM _seriously_ have to load everything and sundry for three minutes, just to get me to a recovery console?
syslq
Come on, I have just joined and first line I read includes "reboot"
Viking667, doh
JaHoOveEr69
have you not seen those programs that turn an image into a 3d viewable image which is totally grey? if you dont go crosseyed it just looks like a grey image ..but when u go crosseyed its the image that u changed
i dont see why there cant be a program that just does that for the the few areas of the screen where i need it
syslq
Hmm
How about some flamewars or something
l43a2
wars?
fwc
Hmm, anyone ever use an AMD/cheap Promise RAID controller? its working fine in AHCI mode, finally got it to boot in RAID mode.. took about 10 minutes, now I'm getting spammed with "AMD RaidXPert Task 20 timeout on disk (port number 1, target id1) at LBA 0xdeadbeef (Length 0x100)" bubbles. The system is extremely unresponsive, but when benchmarking the drive with HDTune, I get 90mb/s average read speed at the head of the drive. Any ideas? Latest drivers from AM
D(SB/AHCI/RAID), SB600 southbridge, 2 RAIDs - 1 JBOD (this drive), 1 stripe with 2 other disks currently not used.
l43a2
nuke war maybe
syslq
fwc, well I have experience that it's way better to use software raid than cheapo onboard controler
fwc
syslq: well i want to take the win install from this drive and put it on a stripe, without writing any more than i have to
syslq: so installing and converting to a dynamic disk is a no go
Viking667
hmmm. Should I be worried that BOOTCFG /SCAN can't find a valid Windows install?
syslq
fwc, from what I know you cant even boot from dynamic volumen or can you
Viking667, what are you doing?
fwc
syslq: haven't tried it, but afaik you could. regardless, not something i want to try :P no trim on these SSDs yet
Viking667
tried that at the recovery console of the Windows CDROM
fwc
so im kinda stuck with onboard raid for now
syslq
uuu, ssd's :=)
Viking667
I'm going to be so pissed off if I have to reinstall windows again from scratch.
syslq
fwc :), well just skip it and keep an image of system
Viking667, why?
fwc
Viking: what happened?
syslq
Viking667, what is an error?
Viking667
so far, I don't know.
fwc
syslq: the issue is i cant get windows to work without sh*tting out with the onboard "raid controller" :\
Viking667
I can't boot windows. I can't get any sane results out of "bootcfg /scan"
that's as far as I've got.
syslq
bootcfg /rebuild?
fwc
syslq: since the SSDs would be on the SB600, popping the image to them would just result in the same issue.. so I have to resolve the issue with timeouts first
syslq
It should somehow rebouild your bootini or something lemme check
Viking667
won't work if it can't find a Windows XP OS to begin with.
d: doesn't come up with anything sane (Cannot enumerate directory)
syslq
Viking667, output bootcfg /list
paste it I mean
fwc
Viking: can you see/access the partition?
Viking667
There are currently no boot entries available to display
syslq
hmm, how about what fwc askeD?
can you actually see windows parition
partition
Viking667
Diskpart shows an "unknown" partition in the correct slot.
syslq
Hmm, sounds like fu*ked up partition
Viking667
... of the correct size, just doesn't mention the correct filesystem.
fwc
Viking: try a linux CD, is it a SATA drive? first partition? if its XP uhh.. mount -o offset=32,256 -t ntfs /dev/sda /mnt
Viking667
ouch. I had a whole development setup on that partition
It's PATA.
syslq
fwc yeah but there is a better way actually,
peteski
evening! I've started getting that black screen pre login on windows 7 pro :< I reboot to safe mode and then reboot again.. its ok, but next reboot its back to black
syslq
Viking667, try linux system rescue cd and run testdisk
Viking667
I could see if it mounts under Linux, would let me see if it mounts, at least.
peteski
Any official fixes for this? I read they claim its mallware
fwc
ok then mount -o offset=32256 -t ntfs /dev/sda /mnt, if it mounts then just repartition the drive
JaHoOveEr69
anyway of reseting samsung nc10 bios password without opening ?
Viking667
syslq: I think I've got a copy of that.
syslq
Viking667, mhm, testdisk is very nice util, it can handle ntfs very nice
Viking667
that offset, is it in bytes, blocks, or what?
infoG
how can i tell if one of my raid drives has gone bad
syslq
fwc, I'm impressed :), you're looking for a job :)
fwc
id use diskpart over fdisk, get the size of the disk in bytes from fdisk, then open up diskpart, new partition.. start = 32256, end = (size of drive in bytes-1), type = ntfs
Viking667
then I'll root up my copy of sysrescue
fwc
:P
Viking667
fwc: well, the details are all correct, just the partition type isn't correct.
and no, the drive doesn't JUST contain the one partition
fwc
ah!
well then, just use fdisk in linux to change the partition type
or get handy with a hex editor
Viking667
the partition type is CORRECT! (if it's 0x7 for WinXP/ntfs)
fwc
yes, it is
syslq
mhm
fwc
0x07
HPFS/NTFS
Viking667
yup.
So, reboot into Linux? See if I can at least mount it?
fwc
if you have a Linux CD handy, thats what id do
verify that something isnt seriously corrupted first
Viking667
I have a fully working Linux install bootable from the grub, that's not at issue.
syslq
Speaking of which, grub2 found my windows loader and added it to menu without me asking it, before I had to switch boot drive in bios since I was to lame to set up grub
Viking667
oh, far OUT!!! guess what. Filesystem checks. Bah.
fwc
lol
disable forced fscks imo
Viking667
not on my computer. They've saved me the occasional problem.
fwc
ugh screw this im buying a real raid controller, this is outrageous
Viking667
at least most people in here know _of_ linux, even if they're not actually running it as their main system.
flyback
Viking667,
just stop
what are you doing?
you got a disk error?
syslq
fwc, congrats ;)
fwc, it will save you tons of stress
flyback
fwc
do you need to recover data?
fwc
flyback, no i need to stop getting timeout errors :\
Viking667
flyback: can't boot a Windows disk, though I can boot everything else.
Grub complains about the boot, and I can't boot the drive bare
fwc
oh HOLY CRAP
Viking667
I'm about to check what Linux's disk says about the drive because bootcfg can't "see" a bootable OS.
fwc
copied an OLD ahcix64s.sys in, and it boots faster than 15 minutes
Viking667
hdb1 is type 0x07, and it's marked as active.
syslq
fwc what's your gig anyway? I mean what field do you work in?
flyback
Viking667, is there data you need to recovery or are you able to mount the partition in linux and copy it iff?
(Action) bbl
syslq
Viking667, try testdisk (do man testdisk before), it has very good ability to repair fu*ked up partitions
flyback
back in a bit
syslq, bad idea
syslq
flyback, always worked for me?
Like 20 times now
flyback
he should try to mount it in linux and copy out any crtitical data first
yeah but writing back to something unknown is always risky
Viking667
I can't mount the partition. dmesg claims primary bootsector is invalid,
flyback
I am not saying you shouldn't use that tool but should backup first
syslq
flyback, speaking of which he should do dd image before yeah
flyback
how big is the partition
yeah
Viking667
36Gb
flyback
like syslq said
syslq
flyback, yeah, you're right man
flyback
do you have a 40 gig hd or 40 gig of free space
Viking667
no.
flyback
I would bit stream image that partiiton before you do anything
fwc
syslq: nothing hahah
Viking667
"bit stream image"?
flyback
yeah just raw dumped sectors
from 1 to end
syslq
Well he could pipe it trough bzip but that will decrease it something like 10gigis
jiggaboojonez
happy holidays...
Viking667
ahhh. right.
flyback
that's true
nature calls
syslq
fwc, ? really?
flyback
so I have to run
fwc or Viking667 if you guys need help just message me
I will look when I get back
fwc
syslq: im apparently a professional bum. hard to find work around here, get the occasional tech refresh etc
Viking667
*sigh*
flyback
(Action) has done a lot of data recovery
jiggaboojonez
how to i restore or replace MBR? can i just install GRUB/any other bootloader w/out installing linux?
Viking667
yeah, I may need to call on you two later. I have to go out to amuse my two nephews...
syslq
fwc, ah american
peteski
hmmn, no malware :<
fwc
Viking, ahh, let me know if you need help when you get back
syslq: hahah, yes indeed
Viking667
well, from the expression "Primary bootsector is invalid", what would I do? Run Fixboot?
fwc
Viking: woa what? when do you get that error?
syslq
fwc, move to california for fu*ks sake, my ex coworker went there in the middle of the recession and he got work, but he's like fu*king genious so that might had something to do with it :)
fwc
syslq: haha maybe, i hear they hug trees out there though.. :)
Viking667
When I initially try to mount the partition in Linux. I see directory entries if I use -o ro,errors=recover
so I see the data there, all right.
syslq
fwc from central/eastern europe
fwc
Viking: and what errors do you see in dmesg?
Viking667
(Action) from New Zealand
fwc: that WAS from dmesg
fwc
Viking: no after mounting with errors=recover
syslq
Viking667, yeah New Zeland rocks I hear
Viking667
oh.
fwc
Viking: any other error messages in dmesg?
Viking667
hot-fix: recovery of primary boot sector failed, read-only mount.
it then says: using backup boot sector
fwc
aye, yeah
good, you should just be able to restore it from that
Viking667
so. where's the backup normally stored, and can I simply dd that into place?
fwc
hmm not 100% sure on that one
jiggaboojonez
any alternative to MBR/windows boot loader?
fwc
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/153973
oh fun
syslq
fwc, might be for you
fwc, it's 00:47 here :)
fwc
syslq: :) thats not so bad, i was up til 4:30 punching my computer.. it won that fight though
syslq
fwc, which reminds me I still have backup bash script to do
bah in the morning
fwc
oh sweet, my win7 box finally works with the controller in raid mode.. time to install onto my SSDs
so, i put 2 Kingston 40GB drives with the intel controller in here.. brand new, they read at 240mb/s per drive... in raid-0, they average 300mb/s with 380mb/s peaks hahah
syslq
Thats nice
fwc
with a very predictable read pattern, the peaks get progressively lower, then goes back high
so i really need a real controller anyway.. especially if i want to hook up the other 2 drives
syslq
fwc, they are not that expensive
fwc
1 drive is flatline 240mb/s :\
nah, not too bad, around $280 US for a halfway decent PCI-E x4 controller
syslq
fwc, especially in US, your prices are way lower than in EU
I had things sent, payed all customs etc and was still cheaper
fwc
haha ouch!
syslq
mhm
fwc, but hey I have affordable healthcare even if it does suck big time :)
fwc
ok now lets see if acronis can actually deal with SB600 raid
yeah, i get charged if i even think about going to a doctor hah
syslq
fwc, basic is free here and aditional is solidarity principle like I pay way more than guy who get's minimume etc but even that's not a lot, it's like dunno 20eu
fwc
:(
so i have to choose between 1GB/s RAID arrays and medical care, ugh, that sucks
syslq
Heheh
fwc, bah, that's theory
if you want good sh*t you pay
fwc
still better than nothing
syslq
fwc, but you will not die from preventable cause for lack of money that's true, well they might fu*k you up in the process but hey
fwc
lol