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oiaohm
Yep richardcavell
richardcavell
oiaohm: I just ran it under Wine and it crashed my system
X)
oiaohm
Ok that is not ment to be possible.
Unless you have suspect drivers.
richardcavell
well comctl32.exe just spat the dummy
oiaohm
Wine really does not have the power to crash systems without help.
richardcavell
And I had to close X11
Wine crashes my puter about every 5 hours or so
Though again it may be Apple's fault rather than Wine's
oiaohm
I would say stuffed X11 stack not wine on the crash.
wine test spitting the dummy and leaving screen in a mess does happen.
Ie something don't render right opps.
richardcavell
well, I'm a novice coder, but the way I see it, instead of blaming Apple for dodgy X11 implementation, the solution is to find workarounds, right?
Try and make it work
oiaohm
There is a option to work with the developers of the future driver for OS X in wine doing testing and the like for them. richardcavell
And along the way learning to code.
richardcavell
oiaohm: Well, I'd be happy to help
especially if it's as simple as just running programs on my machine
Gimpexe
masterslakk did u manage to get warcraft 3 working?
oiaohm
http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX/QuartzDriver Basically should speak to them. richardcavell. They also have a bit of object c to C translation todo. That is not write from coding.
richardcavell
oiaohm: okay
oiaohm: I need to find a project where my non-leet coding skillz would be of some use
oiaohm
There are quite a few areas.
Going threw the bug list hunting duplicates is something that does not need major coding skilling. richardcavell
Being a appdb maintainer caring for an applications status inforamtion is another.
richardcavell
oiaohm: well I'll keep my C coding skillz sharpened and maybe one day I'll be able to contribute.
oiaohm
we have huge list of never ending jobs. richardcavell All classes of people are required.
The hardest of all to find is documentation writers.
That is a rare breed in the open source world.
Gimpexe
its hard to know what to write in the documentation
oiaohm
That is part of the problem. documentation writing is a very specialised skill. Even more than coding.
Gimpexe
u seem pretty active on this channel oiaohm, how long have u been working on the wine project?
oiaohm
Not exacty working on. I help people through there problems with wine.
Gimpexe
well your very helpful none the less =)
oiaohm
I need to do english prac to control my dyslexia. This is useful way todo it. Gimpexe
Gimpexe
i have a friend with dyslexia, he has problems differentiating M's and W's
oiaohm
After years of work I have mine under control. Gimpexe
Gimpexe
thats good news. gj
masterslakk
gimpexe, yes i wonder if i can beat you.
Gimpexe
masterslakk lol
goodnight all
masterslakk, my nick on Battle.net is Gimp.exe
i usually play on USWest of Europe
=)
goodnight
luceafar
Hey,I've got a problem here. How to make a shortcut to a file that doesn't accept being run from another location? Here's the concrete example. I run an application (euroloader.exe) using Wine. When I go to the "euroloader.exe" folder and run a terminal there,then type : wine "euroloader.exe" -opengl all works fine
but when I create a launcher,for example and type in the command line : wine "/home/luceafar/.wine/dosdrives/C:/Warcraft III/euroloader.exe" -opengl the app. pops out and gives the error : Could not open war3.exe Are you sure the euroloader is in your Warcraft III folder? Any ideas?
Zaba
cd to that directory first
luceafar
yeah,this is how I run it
but I want to make a shortcut to it
and when I create a launcher,and put in the wine "/home/luceafar/.../Warcraft III/euroloader.exe" -opengl
it gives me the same error
Zaba
that is because the program wants to run whilst in the directory it is, and thus the files it needs are in.
luceafar
I understand that,but I want to be able to double-click and enter the app.
not run a terminal every type
time *
in that open folder and type wine "euroloader.exe" -opengl
rethus
can i set the envviroment var PATH into wine cmd ?
AimHere
In the windows stylee, it's %PATH%
And your wine %PATH% doesn't really want to be the same as your Linux/Unix $PATH anyways
rethus
AimHere: jeah, thanks.
but i have the strange thing, that system.reg (which inside of .wine would be overwritten each time with default values.
u know why?
a great wish for wine: make us able to set the Enviroment-Vars like PATH (founded into system.reg on KEY: [System\\CurrentControlSet\\Control\\Session Manager\\Environment] in winecfg
that woul be realy great
did anyone know, why system.re gis always overwritten?
i change something... and some mitutes after that its disappear
ah, wait...
it dissapear if u start winecfg
anyone here listen me, or i'm talking to myself?
ok, only 3 people listen here... me, myself, and i :D
calum
Hello all. Was directed here from #ubuntu. I cannot get a game to run in wine which a similar one did. Half the menu wont appear
I am using wine 1.01 on Ubuntu 10.04
grant_
Hello?
I need some help with Wine
Is anyone there?
aar0n
yes what are you having problems with
bp0
I tried to play Starcraft using Wine in Ubuntu 10.04, on AMD Phenom 3.1Ghz, but it was very laggy
any ideas?
grant_
My problem; I do not have "Programs" in the Wine menu
I cannot launch programs normally
i.e. Microsoft Word 2007
bp0
grant_, was it there before? does it still exist in the menu editor, but hidden?
grant_
It was there before, but then i reinstalled an older version of wine (1.1.42) for microsoft word
now it is not there
bp0
I had a similar problem, and the fix was just to go into menu editor and unhide it
grant_
How do i do that
Ubuntu 10.04
bp0
(Ubuntu,Gnome) System -> Preferences -> Main Menu
grant_
alright
How do i "unhide" it
bp0
the "Show" column checkbox
grant_
It is not in the "Wine" catergorie
All i see is: Brose C:
Configure wine
and Unistall Wine SOftware
bp0
then you don't have the same problem that I did, sorry
grant_
ah
Are you running microsoft office on WIne?
bp0
no, I use OO
grant_
ah okay
What version of wine are you using?
bp0
1.2-rc2
did you build your yourself?
*yours
or is it a package
grant_
package
I downloaded it from the archives
bp0
huh, honestly the gnome menus are a mystery to me, it all seems very poor
grant_
i read tutorials that older version of Wine work with microsoft office
bp0
i bet there is some little problem in the menu system
grant_
ah
okay
Also; do you know any good note taking software?
That has like a "autodate" so it puts the date automatically
bp0
ok, maybe i have a solution to your menu problem...
grant_
ah
please share :)
there is my wine menu file compare it to yours
is there anything different?
grant_
How can i view my menu file
Sorry, I am a new ubuntu user
bp0
in terminal: sudo gedit /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged/wine.menu
grant_
alright
should i just copy your wine.menu
bp0
well look at it first and see what is different?
grant_
kk
bp0
is the programs menu included in yours?
see, the programs menu is system wide, but the items in the menu are in your ~/.config/...
and these xml files get all merged together somehow
its not very easy to follow
grant_
I do have the program menu in mine
but i don't know why isn't it showing
bp0
well, huh
grant_
here let me give you mine
see if anything is odd
bp0
have you logged out, and then back in since you installed the new package?
grant_
No
bp0
you might give that a try too
grant_
I thought you didn't need to do those things in Linux lol
alright
bp0
yeah, i know
this is mine
bp0
seems to be the same
so, I'm out of ideas
grant_
but when i copy yours and use it, my whole Wine is gone
>____________________>
bp0
hah
grant_
alright let me re log in
bp0
oh, well first line is the filename
grant_
and see what happens
bp0
dont include that in yours
grant_
oh
alright let me try again
bp0
file should start with <!
grant_
i am going to log in again
be right back
bp0
ok
Grant_W
ALright i am back
The programs are still not there
bp0
well I'm stumped then, someone else will have to give a try, sorry
Grant_W
alright, no problem
nicklas_
yo
iamfil
anyone know why when i close a document in photoshop cs2 the whole app closes in kde 4.4?
nicklas_
iamfil: run it from terminal and do the same thing, copy and paste all terminal text and paste it to pastebin and paste the link here :-P
iamfil
http://pastebin.com/R4MQdT6g there we go. i just started it up, made a new document (file -> new) then clicked the x button on the window.
everything works fine, it's just clicking the x causes the whole app to close along with all windows. im guessing maybe it has to do with how kde manages windows?
didn't happen in gnome
nicklas_
iamfil: you clicked the x button that closes photoshop?
iamfil
no, the x button that closes the document inside photoshop
nicklas_
are you running the same dist?
iamfil
yea, ubuntu 10.04
in gnome it works fine
i just turned off "Allow the window manager to deocrate the window" and "allow the window manager to control the window" and i can close documents without closing the whole app
nicklas_
ah, it has to do with the window manager, not wine
thats what i was guessing, since you use the same dist, first ubuntu then kubuntu right?
iamfil
yea. so more experimenting, i just disabled "allow the window manager to decorate the window" only and it works fine as well. it appears to happen when the windows are decorated.
i used to use ubuntu 10.04, but did a clean install of kubuntu 10.04
nicklas_
iamfil: window decoration? u dont use kwin?
iamfil
i do, i meant the wine configuration utility.
nicklas_
oh
weird
iamfil
i uncheked "allow the window manager to decorate the windows"
nicklas_
im afraid i cant tell you why it is like that
iamfil
and amazingly, it works. :/. weird indeed. i've been looking through the kde window settings and can't figure out why
nicklas_
iamfil: do you use kpackagekit btw? or have you installed software center?
i use xfce (xubuntu)
iamfil
no, i installed synaptic. it's much nicer. i don't like kpackagekit or software center
nicklas_
synaptic is even harder to use than kpackagekit i think
iamfil
yea, but im used to it.
nicklas_
i mean, when i want to install all the games, i want a simple list with the games, not a list with all the packages of the games, takes years to look through that and click what you want :-P
not so user friendly, one major drawback for kubuntu i think
iamfil
what if you don't like all the games but just want one?
AimHere
apt-get install <name of game>
nicklas_
well, then i guess you can just use apt-get
but after fresh install, its nice to be able to look in a user friendly gui for the package manager, so you can check out what you want, especially if you dont know exactly what is in the repos
ozzloy
i am trying to add a language to rosetta stone 3.4.x. i don't have an optical drive, but i do have the files