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cmyers_
I am having trouble getting ctrl+alt+backspace to kill my X. Googling has reported that this feature was intentionally, blasphemously, broken. All attempts to fix it have failed. Adding "DontZap" to xorg.conf failed. Changing xmodmap for key 22 has failed. Can anyone advise how to get this working? Does anyone have it working on debian squeeze?
themill
!dontzap
dpkg
To disable termination of your X server via Ctrl+Alt+Backspace in Lenny, place Option "DontZap" "on" within the ServerFlags section of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, see xorg.conf(5). Squeeze users: server zapping is not enabled by default. To enable, execute "dpkg-reconfigure -pmedium keyboard-configuration" and answer Yes when asked if Ctrl+Alt+Backspace can terminate the X server.
cmyers_
themill: thanks, trying that
(Action) is infuriated googling did not find this solution
abrotman
chealer: i meant you've been warned before about using !ops to get us to change the topic for things that probably shouldn't be there
chealer: change the <debian news> factoid if you want to add something. That allows normal channel users to kind of keep a FAQ for themselves without needing an op to change the topic
cmyers_
themill: That didn't work.
themill
*shrug* claimed to work... never played with it myself
cmyers_
does not work =(
argh
showkeys is showing keycode 27, then 8, when I press ctrl+alt+backspace.
I don't think that is right.
wtf is going on? =(
dpkg: dontzap is not the answer, instead run `setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp`
dpkg
...but dontzap is already something else...
cmyers_
can someone help me fix dpkg? I figured out hte real answer. dontzap seems to have no effect, running the above setxkbmap cmd is the actual solution.
!dontzap
dpkg
from memory, dontzap is On squeeze and newer, to enable ctrl+alt+backspace killing X, run `setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp`, on debian before squeeze To disable termination of X server via Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, place Option "DontZap" "on" within the ServerFlags section of your xorg.conf file, see xorg.conf(5). To enable, execute "dpkg-reconfigure -pmedium keyboard-configuration" and answer Yes when asked.
cmyers_
bam. correct now.
gamambel
anyone here familiar with bridging networks? i have tried for several hours now to get network to work on my KVM/proxmox/debian server, but the ISP configuration confuses me
i'd be grateful for any help , you can find my config at http://pastebin.ca/1882489
hermock
bonjour je n'arrive pas a lire un dvd avec vlc ou mplayer ..... je suspecte que le lecteur n'arrive pas a la monter car il doit y avoir un soft qui l'automount
qq-
!fr
dpkg
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hermock
sorry I can speak english too
I have an issue , my vlc player is failing to read my dvd and i suspect that another resource is locking my dvd
qq-
!dvd playback
dpkg
To play DVDs, you need some media playing software (ask me about <dvd> for some suggestions on viewers). You will also need the libdvdcss2 libdvdnav4 libdvdread3 packages installed, some of which are in <debian-multimedia.org> (see <libdvdcss>). You will also need to set a region on your DVD player - if you have never done so before - using regionset. Also ask me about <dvd playback troubleshooting>.
chealer
abrotman: I don't remember that, no. I don't see how <debian news> would help
hermock
is dpkg a bot ?
old
hermock: Yes.
hermock
ok i'll try it
rudi_s
Btw., is setting a region really necessary? I can play DVDs fine and have never done it.
themill
rudi_s: I certainly had to do so
rudi_s
themill: Interesting.
qq-
pn router a get a classic "iptables -A POSTROUTING -p tcp -t nat -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE" , nothing else (yes 1 to ip_forward)
and dhcp on router works correct (all lan machines get local IP)
s/ pn/on
hi, any idea why my router (a dedicated pc) let connect to external net _only one_ lan pc ?
slush
qq-: you don't need masquerade.. with ip_forward enabled you should be able to ping outside your router
qq-
slush, will try , thanks
hajen
Question: I have a custom-built kernel module for my computer. When apt installed a new kernel image yesterday, it broke that module. Will I have to compile the module once for each new linux version, using the new headers or is there a simpler way?
OK, it's not 'custom' per se but is only distributed in source form
chealer
hajen: if you don't have pre-built modules, you'll have to build, yes,
hajen
OK, thanks chealer. That's too bad. Debian should carry the broadcom non-free drivers in their apt repository.
slush
they shouldn't
simonrvn
um, no. it's non-free. they can't.
gsimmons
hajen: If you're referring to the vendor's "hybrid" wireless LAN driver, this is already packaged as broadcam-sta ; /msg dpkg wl
simonrvn
if you have an issue with that, bug broadcom, or switch distro.
nN0bdy
i'm running from a debian live cd with gnome, but i want to give kde a try, too, which is quite easy by installing it, too and selecting one of them at logon, but as i'm running a live system, i cannot shut down and reboot, nor can i really log in, so my question is how i can manually end gnome and start kde without rebooing...?
nikotino
hola
hay alguein que entienda
jasper
!es
dpkg
Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat
nikotino
#debian-es /join
#debian-es
debian-es /join
debian-es
jasper
nikotino: you type "/join debian-es
without "
nikotino
donde ando
jasper
éste es el canal lxde
i el uso de Google traducir, lo siento si mal español
nikotino
is there a spanish chatroom?
is there a chatroom in spanish?
jasper
the only one i am aware of is debian-es
nikotino
thanks
nicholas
is it possible to get a single bugs report to belong to *two* packages?
hermock
dpkg is pretty good thanks, I could easily get VLC working and I saw 300 :)
dpkg
You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, hermock
jasper
slaps dpkg you gaggling bag of bolts
cackle*
bzed
nicholas: package1;package2
nicholas
bzed: wonderful, thank you!
bzed
nicholas: but you rarely need that, usually you want tosmething like cloning the bug and reassigning the clone or something like that
bah I'm writing glibberish. time to go to bed...
nicholas
bzed: valgrind is unusable because of changes in ld.so. it's not entirely the fault of either side, and there's two possible fixes.
i just sorta want in on both their radars
want *it
ack! did snapshot.debian.net stop archiving?!
gsimmons
nicholas: For some time now. You want snapshot.debian.org instead.
nicholas
gsimmons: oh fantastic. thank you!
bzed: 'reassign 585809 valgrind;libc6' didn't work :(
Dreakon
Hey guys, is it possible to make a nautilus script in GNOME to function where you right click a folder and it opens a random file in said folder?
RJ
Hi.
Is anyone here?
nicholas
no
;)
RJ
haha
there's over 100 people on the whois list, but nobody is talking. Anyway, I was thinking of switching to debian, but I had some questions
jasper
!anyone
dpkg
Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
jasper
:)
RJ
I'm just starting to get into computers again, and have been using Ubuntu, but it's starting to look like an iPhone and I can't stand Apple. Other than typical computer usage (email, net, office), I'm also teaching myself python which doesn't work so well with Ubuntu (partially due to the poor nvidia support). Considering this, would Debian be a good choice for me?
nicholas
i'm terrified that nvidia support is impacting your learning of python
RJ
well, eventually i want to get into pygame. I'm not there yet, but I'm trying to look ahead.
nicholas
i've long since long track of what debian's default desktop looks like, but i know ubuntu has customized theirs heavily
RJ
I have an nvidia card, though, and have frequent enough crashes when bliting.
nicholas
strange. are they using nouveau perhaps?
i still use the proprietary driver, manually installed on top of my debian system. works great for me.
RJ
i've heard that term referenced in the newest version, though I don't know what it is. I'm still quite a beginner.
nicholas
it's a new driver for nvidia cards, written outside of nvidia
RJ
I haven't really done much with computers for quite a few years now. everything i knew is pretty much out of date (and was more windows oriented anyway)
i'm not that great with manual installs. the terminal is not very intuitive to me.
nicholas
fair enough. i don't think i'm capable of answering the question of how good a match debian is for you. i've had debian since '99 and linux since '94. the values i see in debian are focussed in a completely different place (i like the extensive policy manual and documentation)
RJ
care to elaborate?
nicholas
the debian policy manual describes how debian packages are to be prepared, http://www.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals#policy
unlike the packaging manual which is just 'how to build a package' it covers a lot of the design of debian as a system, broken down into requirements on the individual packages.
there's also lots of user documentation: http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals , if you're the sort who really likes to read.
debian installation guide and debian reference are excellent
RJ
yeah, this is a bit over my head. i barely understand (assuming i do) what packages really are, nevermind their requirements (unless you mean system requirements).
nicholas
no, i don't mean system requirements.
RJ
so, yeah, a bit over my head.
gamambel
RJ: linux and especially debian are very time consuming
nicholas
indeed, i wouldn't worry about that.
gamambel
you have to know that pretty much nothing works out of the box
nicholas
gamambel: what?
gamambel
it's great to get to know you're computer, but if you want something that "just works" you might want to stay with win/mac
nicholas
about as much will work out of the box as it did on ubuntu for instance
jasper_
that is the price of freedom
Xenguy
gamambel: you're in this channel, advocating proprietary OSs
gamambel
no
Xenguy
?
oh
gamambel
i am in this channel but i'm still allowed to say my opinion
Xenguy
sure enough
RJ
well, i wouldn't mind learning how to get things to work, but i have no clue where to start. with ubuntu problems were usually solved by going to the forums, explaining my problem, and they'd tell me what to type in the terminal. I don't feel like I was really learning anything, though.
that's partly why i want to switch. I'd like to do some dev work of my own, but how can i expect to do so if i can't even understand my OS?
nicholas
it's funny because windows stopped "just working" for me long, long ago ;)
jasper_
!windows
dpkg
"PCs are like air conditioners, if you open Windows(R) they don't work." Support for Microsoft Windows operating systems is available at ##windows on irc.freenode.net.
gamambel
nicholas: yeah that's why most of you guys have so much trouble understanding regular users
Xenguy
heh, so true
gamambel
as in "I'm just starting to get into computers again"
Xenguy
RJ: truthfully, I find that debian mostly just works...
nicholas
which is why i already explicitly said i don't think i can really help evaluate in this case!
gamambel
after all, i'm pretty pissed at the moment, don't take it personally
Xenguy
RJ: I stick with 'stable' these days, and life is pretty good :-)
gamambel
i've been trying to get some pretty basic stuff running for three days, haven't slept in two because of a deadline, and it all takes SO LONG
nicholas
RJ: that's a good observation, actually. if you want to learn more about what's going on behind the scenes, the documentation (and books) will help more than anything on the computer
RJ: it's a little like how astronomy isn't actually about the telescopes
Xenguy
debian works good enough that I'm not tempted to leave :-)
there
nicholas
for the most part, the documentation that comes with the computer (like linux's 'man pages') will assume you already have a certain level of proficiency. it's particularly annoying because they're content-rich yet inaccessible.
RJ
sorry...d/c...anyway, I was saying that the bottom line is that I don't know where to start (from scratch).
ray
ii
icebreaker
guys, how can Install w32codecs? i'm trying to install but it's not on my repository debian-multimedia, where is it?
jasper_
icebreaker: what are you trying to do?
icebreaker
i'm trying to install w32codecs, but it's not on my repository and sorry about my english, it's not very good, i know!
gsimmons
icebreaker: The package is now located in Debian Multimedia's non-free section ; /msg dpkg dmm
icebreaker
ooowww m thanks, so i will put deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org stable non-free on my source.list right?
gsimmons
icebreaker: s/stable non-free/lenny main non-free/ (you may also want to install packages available in main)
icebreaker
gsimmons: thank guy...
qq-
slush, still here ?
3-rd day to forward interfaces go get net on my router , no joy
adama
my Firefox error console says my lenny webserver is potentially vulnerable to CVE-2009-3555 - http://www.debian.org/security/2009/dsa-1934 says I need apache2 2.2.9-10+lenny6 but the server has 2.2.9-10+lenny7 ...??
Piki
hi, KDE user here. when trying to play an Ogg Vorbis or MP3 in a xine-based player like Amarok, the file stutters (kind of like a scratched CD or broken record), but when using mplayer, the file plays normally -- at least until the very end of the file, where it stutters. any help much appreciated
i guess i should mention this is on lenny 5.0.4 :-)
and on a fully up-to-date system as of a few minutes ago
Guest953
I appear to be in 'dll hell' here ... help, please. 'g++: Depends: g++-4.4 (>= 4.4.3-1) but it is not going to be installed'
from: apt-get install build-essential g++
jm_
apt-cache policy 'g++-4.4'
Guest953
jm_: Thanks. Working on pastebin here.
Piki
since we have a few new faces here, i'll re-explain the problem i'm having: i'm a KDE user on lenny 5.0.4 updated as of a few minutes ago. xine-based players like amarok stutter like a scratched CD on audio files (ogg vorbis/mp3) while mplayer plays fine but stutters on the end of the file
dbvolio
hi
i have a problem
who is familiar with centova??
Guest953
jm_: Hold the thought. Updates are now present that weren't available when last I looked. Perhaps something's changed. I'll 'write' again when I've investigated a bit more.
dbvolio
someone
knows how centova works?
because i want to use it and it just won't install
Piki
dbvolio: i'm not familiar with it, but if you explaint he error you're getting, i'm sure taht someone will help (eventually)
wow, i need to re-take my typing classes :-)
dbvolio
yes
ok
so
for installing centova i followed the pdf manual the centova has
Guest953
build-essential g++ circle (4.4 <-> 4.3?) still present. http://paste.debian.net/77313/ Help, please.
dbvolio
i have installed all the dependecyes including ioncube loader which is working
so
when i should type ./install.sh
it says that ioncube must be installed
that is the error
Piki
Guest953: i think build-essential might need to be updated for the new g++. it's looking for 4.4.3, but only 4.4.4 is available.
dbvolio: it seems that centova is looking for ioncude in a different place than it is installed. i've never done scripting with .sh files before, but you might be able to edit it to look for ioncube where it's actually installed
but i'd recommend waiting for a more experienced user help you before trying to do the editing
Guest953
Piki: ok, but if I just try to get g++ alone, same problem. Getting closer though (in the sense of finding the real culprit.) But I'm still lost. http://paste.debian.net/77314/
jm_
Guest953: what happens if you use aptitude instead of apt-get? I also forgot to ask about apt-cache policy output for g++
Guest953: you have a mix of testing and unstable, why?
Guest953
jm_: apt-cache policy at top of last pastebin. aptitude worse, and what started me down this road: aptitude search aptitude returns: aptitude: symbol lookup error: aptitude: undefined symbol: sqlite3_db_mutex. Why the heck sqlite is involved at all with aptitude is just beyond me.
dbvolio
not the editing of ioncube
jm_
Guest953: ahh you're the sqlite3 feller from last week?
dbvolio
ioncube is a php loader
it's a decryptor
Guest953
jm_: Hey!
dbvolio
centova installes shoutcast and then the rest of the script
Guest953
jm_: Three steps forward, 14 1/2 back.
dbvolio
that's why i need ./install.sh
Guest953
jm_: Nice to know I'm recognizable! Hey, it's that stupid 'sqlite3 feller' again! :-)