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arosenberg
Setting up a Snow Leopard box and can't get the unstable vidalia bundle to work. Ticket #512 doesn't seem to affect it. Tor seems to work, but the problem seems to be proxy-related.
Sebastian_
arosenberg: so you installed torbutton, and toggled it on? What happens?
arosenberg
FireFox reports "The proxy server is refusing connections"
Sebastian_
try closing Vidalia, moving the Library/Vidalia folder someplace else, and reopening Vidalia
hrm, gotta go. Time to sleep. Good luck, if you still have a problem I'm sure other people can help.
arosenberg
Sebastian_: thanks. that seems to kick it in the head properly.
RaptorRibs
When I get a 504 Connect error while trying to go to an .onion site, what does that mean? It's happening to a lot but not all sites I've tried.
formalist
hm?
RaptorRibs
It says 504 Connect to websiteaddress.onion failed: SOCKS error: host unreachable
phobos
does your message log show an error similar?
"unable to find [scrubbed].onion host"
RaptorRibs
It says [Notice] Closing stream for '[scrubbed].onion': hidden service is unavailable (try again later).
phobos
yeah
that generally means one of two things; 1) the hidden service is down, 2) your client can't find an introduction point to the hidden service
RaptorRibs
Ahh, allright.
frazzydee
if I'm using a laptop (which is disconnected often & has a different IP address during the day), does it help or hurt to run a tor exit node?
phobos
you won't get much traffic
frazzydee
sorry I should mention, it's connected all night, but disconnected/switches IPs during the day
phobos
because you need to be online for a few hours consistently before clients will find and use it
frazzydee
phobos: I do get a bit of traffic at night, and I have the same IP every night
phobos
ok
well, empircal data wins
frazzydee
phobos: but you're right, it's not a lot
do you think it helps, or just cloggs the network?
phobos
it all helps
mikeperry
well, that's not true. that sort of setup would be terrible to run as a bridge right now. but its good enough for an exit
I don't believe current tor clients are good at tracking bridges when they change IPs
which is unfortunate, because that is something that would be really good for a bridge to do
arma has some plan to try to follow bridges by orhash, but I don't think its implemented yet, and it won't do you much good if that was your last bridge that just changed
nsa
or: [polipo/master] 2010-03-24 03:23:30 Christopher Davis <chrisd@mangrin.org>: Rewrite memrchr to avoid an unsigned integer underflow.
or: [polipo/master] 2010-03-24 03:40:40 Christopher Davis <chrisd@mangrin.org>: Update CHANGES.
jzher
has anybody in china managed to access tor network without using bridges?
mikeperry
probably works from time to time. they seem to do blocking in waves, and there is a high amount of churn in t[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[Che tor network
irssi fail
karsten's stats extrapolate from long-lived nodes though, iirc. so his stats tell us no one from china can access the normal network
I suspect this is not 100% correct
ln5
mikeperry: disk on salsa is filling up pretty quickly and will be full within a couple of days. could we clean up more aggresively or should i try to find some more disk?
mikeperry
ln5: cleaning it out now
ln5
great. let me know what you need to stay on the machine and for how long and i'll hack up something to clean up periodically.
i'm really not aware of exactly what you're copying off the machine. you've probably told me and i've forgotten it.
mikeperry
ln5: there's a cron job on my server that scps the bwscan.V3BandwidthsFile off it every hour. that's all I really need to stay there. I just removed all the .sqlite files. I thought I had patched the scanners to not snapshot those in the first place, but I guess I didn't. doing that now
ln5
sounds good.
nsa
or: mikeperry committed revision 22042 (/torflow/trunk/NetworkScanners/BwAuthority):
or: Disable saving sqlite files. They take up too much space.
or: mikeperry committed revision 22043 (/torflow/branches/stable/NetworkScanners/BwAuthority):
or: Disable saving sqlite files. They take up too much space.
mikeperry
ok going to restart the scanners so that they stop writing these files
ln5
mikeperry: sure, thanks.
mikeperry
maybe I should git pull and rebuild tor while I'm at it
woah, no git
ln5
no?
should be.
mikeperry
maybe its not in the scanner user's path
ln5
hmm, nope.
i'll fix it.
gah! build errors. :( wtf.
mikeperry: there.
nsa
or: pootle committed revision 22044 (/translation/trunk/projects/website/nl): Commit from The Tor Translation Portal by user Infinity. 67 of 67 messages translated (0 fuzzy).
or: pootle committed revision 22045 (/translation/trunk/projects/website/nl): Commit from The Tor Translation Portal by user Infinity. 23 of 23 messages translated (0 fuzzy).
Delirium
Is there someone who I can consult about Orbot?
Sebastian_
just ask your question
Delirium
ok, I just don't know how to describe this bug and am not sure is there bug at all
I have HTC hero with Chinese firmware
build number 1.79.482.3
from www.hiapk.com
well, I'm in China now
(but I am not chinese)
and "ISP blocks connecting to tor network"
about my device
when I bought it
it was already rooted
In console I can write su
then it asks me question like "Accept/Decline/Always"
Last Orbot is installed
but when I start it, firstly everything seems like device hanged
then I see it tries to connect, it took too long time for it
so... it just freezes
the way I cannot even open a menu to set bridges for it
actually, I never even saw a menu, since I cannot open it
nothing happens after I push the button
the only button what has response is "home"
Sebastian_
ok
yeah, that certainly sounds like a bug
can you reach bugs.torproject.org to file a repot?
report8
ugh.
Delirium
ok, I'll try to describe it in a proper way
Neeraj
Sebastian_: read 3 pdfs... too much time consuming
got an idea of the onion method
Sebastian_
Delirium: also stick around in irc, n8fr8 might have an idea
Delirium
is every rooted droid phone asks "Accept/Decline/Always" when application tries to do something with root privileges?
Sebastian_
I don't know, I've never used a rooted phone
Neeraj
but still many are left
n8fr8
an idea!
Sebastian_
Neeraj: well, yeah, don't read them all
Delirium
oh
n8fr8
Delirium: yes basically the app is calling "su"
or sudo
and that causes the gui prompt
Delirium
su
right
n8fr8
one optimization that Orbot needs is to remember if you decline, and to save that state for the rest of that app session
Neeraj
Sebastian_: should i read the latest ones..... to have an idea of what is going on lately
Sebastian_
Neeraj: I'm sorry, but you'll need to figure it out yourself, I think.
Neeraj
k
Sebastian_
We do expect our students to figure out what they want to do by themselves ;)
Delirium
ok, I'll try to decline
Neeraj
k
n8fr8
Delirium: so does the Orbot icon turn yellow at all?
how far does it get? we have others on China Mobile w/ Hero that are working fine
Delirium
moment, I'm connecting to laptop's wifi
launched Orbot...
Declined
Now black screen, nothing happened
Menu doesn't appear on push
Sorry! Activity Orbot is not responing
n8fr8
okay. so now exit, and try ACCEPT this time
and tell me if something different happens
Delirium
ok
Accepted
black screen again
nothing happens, at least on the screen
Sorry! Activity Orbot is not responing
n8fr8
okay, so basically it is crashing on start
Do you have the Android SDK installed by chance?
Delirium
I may try to do the same sequence after rebooting of a phone
yes
n8fr8
do you know how to get the adb log output?
"adb logcat"
Delirium
I think yes, at least in Eclipse :)
n8fr8
you can run that cmd from within the tools dir
of the sdk
http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/tools/adb.html#logcat
Delirium
yes, I know how to see a log... I'll do it right now
n8fr8
great. you can post the text into: http://pastebin.ca/
narr
what THE
for some reason my tor node is back up
i have tried for DAYS, everything, and couldn't get it back up
and now, nothing changed, but it's back
somegeek
duckie: I finally got that script working the way I want
duckie
somegeek: excellent, does it do your dishes too?
somegeek
wait ... $ do_dishes >> script
done
uhm...
s/$ /$ echo
:)
formalist
excuse me?
you're harassing us, aren't you? j/k
atagar
hmmm... snippet from the control-spec I'm having some difficulty decyphering (http://tor.pastebin.com/RYLF20je) - if tor just replies with the keyword then how am I supposed to determine this 'default' value?
heading out for a bus - if anyone knows then please ping me when I pop up at the atagar_work alias
shahn
parse the manpage?
hm
I guess the config options stuff could have been used there
good thing I removed that
but I think not saying a value is still poor design
brah-
my tor isn't working anymore
freezes at loading network status
it appears your guys main exit node is down too, magey
i've tried more than 1 version of tor, none are working
:\
phobos
there is no "main exit node"
brah-
main as in what you route most traffic through
for speedup
phobos
perhaps you misunderstand tor
"we" don't route anything, the tor client does all the work
brah-
that's not what arma said
im well aware the path is client side
phobos
this is tangential to the point
brah-
anyway you have any idea why tor isn't working for me?
phobos
do your logs have any errors?
brah-
Feb 24 13:46:42.390 [Notice] Application request when we're believed to be offline. Optimistically trying directory fetches again.
Feb 24 13:46:38.656 [Notice] Tried for 120 seconds to get a connection to [scrubbed]:6667. Giving up. (waiting for circuit)
phobos
is your tor not working or one application not working through tor?
if you have the gui installed, what color is the onion?
brah-
applications aren't working, and viadlia isn't giving the greenlight
its yellow
stuck on the message loading network status
this is the last message i got before the two above
Feb 24 13:41:46.031 [Notice] Bootstrapped 25%: Loading networkstatus consensus.
phobos
when did it work last?
brah-
I used it last few days ago
i've tried different tor versions, restarting tor and vidalia and installing newer vidalia too
no firewall or ip blockers are running
phobos
briges?
brah-
im not using a bridge no
im not in china
phobos
i use bridges and i'm not in china
brah-
bridges is clearly not the answer
phobos
so, if you switch to info level logging, any actual errors?
like "unable to extend circuit to"
also, which version of tor?
brah-
ill try that
Feb 24 13:52:27.171 [Info] connection_dir_client_reached_eof(): Unable to load consensus directory downloaded from server '81.90.68.90:443'. I'll try again soon.
what could cause that
im using latest alpha version
Feb 24 13:52:17.765 [Info] circuit_build_times_set_timeout(): Set circuit build timeout to 23s (23447.606696ms, Xm: 2025, a: 0.657128) based on 1000 circuit times
Feb 24 13:52:17.765 [Info] circuit_expire_building(): Abandoning circ 0 (state 2:connecting to server, purpose 5)
Feb 24 13:52:17.765 [Info] exit circ (length 1, exit B1BFFE96D67CC1BD7EF6A9D4AC618AF681012A3E): $B1BFFE96D67CC1BD7EF6A9D4AC618AF681012A3E(closed)
Feb 24 13:52:17.765 [Info] circuit_build_failed(): Our circuit died before the first hop with no connection