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user123456789
the tor client which has the hidden service lines in the torrc is 0.2.1.24
it would prb
it would probably help if i put HSAuthoritativeDir 1 in the torrc of the DirServer, I'll try that
oh, it is already in the torrc on the dirserver
the dirserver has this message in the log "Configured authority type does not match authority type in DirServer list, Adjusting (14 v 6)"
the version of tor on the dirserver is 0.2.1.21
OFFShare
dir authorities type: (V1, V2, * HIDSERV, BRIDGE).
user123456789
OFFShare: do you know what the "(14 v 6)" means?
OFFShare
user123456789: sorry, not found in 0.2.2.13-alpha..and i don't have a 0.2.1.xx source...
user123456789
just upgrading the dirserver to .25 now, perhaps things will be smoother then...
ilter
Sebastian_: ping?
graffz`
is it possible to used a fix chain?
use*
misc
for ?
graffz`
TOR
misc
a fixed chain of relay ?
graffz`
sorry, let me rephrase
i just want to relay on a certain host
point the TOR program to use a specific relay
DrThodt
anyone setup tor on debian lenny? the torrc reads like its incompatible with how its installed as a daemon running with an init script
graffz`
would that be possible misc?
anyone?
ilter
graffz`: It's possible. You can configure strictnodes afaik.
graffz`: Look for strictnodes option on tor manual: https://www.torproject.org/tor-manual.html
graffz`
its embarassing to say but im on windows and im using the GUI with the vidalia bundle, how am suppose to do that
ilter: ok, im checking the web page now
ilter
Hmm .. I'm not sure how it's configured on Vidalia. Maybe you should ask it on #vidalia
But also on windows you can modify torrc file (tor configuration file) .
graffz`
ilter: on what platform your using TOR?
ilter
graffz`: I'm using Linux.
graffz`: But sometimes i need to use win.
graffz`
nice, i have compaq presario m2000
im planning to run linux on it
is hard to find drivers for notebook?
ilter
graffz`: I don't think so but it's not a Tor issue.
graffz`
ok, back to TOR, i know where the torrc file located
so i just add the lines there?
ilter
graffz`: Yes.
graffz`
ok, thank you sir ilter , brb trying it now
dandon
(Action) does he (graffz`) mean relay or exit node?
Sebastian_
ilter: pong
ilter
Sebastian_: Hello. I hope you're doing well. I'd like to ask about simulation platform. Remember your script to set up private tor network. Do you have any idea to start traffics from different clients on the private network?
Sebastian_: Or is there a way to create random traffic on Puppetor?
Sebastian_
In both cases, you need to program something. But with either my script or puppetor it is really easy to use an external source
like maybe a bittorrent client, or something that just fetches http documents from a list
just connect to the socksport of any of the clients
ilter
Sebastian_: Good point, if i write a program how to i connect to the sockport? Is there any example program?
Sebastian_
ilter: well, I'd just use a program that someone has already written. Like wget :)
ilter
Sebastian_: Can we make http requests on it by using a specific port (i.e. sockport of a client)?
Sebastian_
sure
ilter
(Action) looks how wget works
Sebastian_
(Action) suggests a web search for "wget socks proxy"
nsa
or: [Tor Bug Tracker] #1376 filed by nickm: #1376: router_rebuild_store() uses a needless tmp file - http://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/1376
or: In router_rebuild_store(), we use write_chunks_to_file() to build
or: cached_descriptors.tmp, and if that is successful, we rename
or: cached_descriptors.tmp to cached_descriptors.
or: But write_chunks_to_file() *already* uses a tmpfile to make sure that it[...]
ilter
(Action) thanks to Sebastian_
Sebastian_
let me know how it goes, it should be very easy
ilter
Sebastian_: Ok i'm trying it.
bubbles|
hi
Sebastian_
hi
bubbles|
can i configure tor so that i have more than one ip at once?
so that i have ip_1 on port 8081, ip_2 on port 8082, etc. ?
Sebastian_
You can run Tor more than once
katmagic
You can, but you'd have to interact with the control port manually.
bubbles|
control port?
Sebastian_
katmagic: no, you cannot. Socksport can be set only once.
bubbles|
ok, the next question is can i specify that one ip should be used for a few hours, rather than just 10 minutes?
so that i can be sure the various ip_x IPs won't overlap
Sebastian_
if you're talking to one host only, the trackhostexits optoin might be useful.
katmagic
Old circuits won't migrate to the new routes, so if you do some evil magic you could, right?
bubbles|
Sebastian_ where do i find it?
Sebastian_
the manpage has stuff
http://www.torproject.org/tor-manual.html.en
bubbles|
hm... i'm using it on windows (with vidalia=
* )
ilter
Sebastian_: This page (https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/TheOnionRouter/TorifyHOWTO) says i need to change environment variable. Is there any option to specify sockport instead of changing env. variables?
Sebastian_
use a different program :)
ilter
Are you using wget to specify socksport by changing env. variables?
Sebastian_
yup
(meaning: Yes, I have done that in the past)
OFFShare
or .wgetrc
ilter
Sebastian_: Ok. What about torsocks? usewithtor?
DrThodt
SocksPort 9050 # what port to open for local application connections
in torrc
ilter
DrThodt: If you answer for me thank you. I asked it to use wget over socksport which my tor client use.
DrThodt
oh you want wget to go through polipo/tor?
Sebastian_
ilter: I haven't analyzed most of those choices. Sorry.
ilter
DrThodt: through tor
DrThodt
i cant even get my tor plugin to work :( lol
im hosting tor on a debian box in the lan
ilter
Sebastian_: Thank you for pointing me wget. It's already so good for me.
OFFShare: Thanks for your answer. Now i'm trying to add socksport on wgetrc file.
DrThodt: tor plugin?
DrThodt
the tor plugin for firefox
it still isnt connecting to tor
im having to edit torrc and polipo conf to allow clients within my lan
ilter
DrThodt: Do you use TorButton?
DrThodt
yeah
not working atm though
can someone double check my settings? http://pastebin.com/jQjtDia4
ilter
DrThodt: I think you should change proxyAddress = "127.0.0.1"
DrThodt
would outside hosts be able to connect?
# Uncomment one of these if you want to allow remote clients to
# connect:
proxyAddress = "0.0.0.0" # IPv4 only
arma
the backlog is confusing to me. what are you trying to do?
DrThodt
tor is running on host 192.168.1.100, id like any client in 192.168.1.0 to be able to connect
arma
ah. is polipo or privoxy there too, or are they on your client machines? or are you skipping the http proxy
DrThodt
just polipo
arma
and polipo is where?
DrThodt
on the .100 machine with tor
arma
ok. if your clients are talking to polipo, then a) tor can still just listen on localhost, and b) you need to tell polipo to listen on more than just localhost
dandon
why are the "strongest" exit nodes situated in germany and as good as no servers are from sweden?
arma
if your clients are talking to tor directly too (meaning socks proxy), skip 'a'
DrThodt
ok so default tor is fine, since using the proxy
arma
dandon: germany has a bunch of privacy fanatics. also servers there are cheap.
DrThodt
so I need to fix:
proxyAddress = "0.0.0.0"
allowedClients = 192.168.1.0/24
arma
dandon: people in sweden don't like privacy, clearly. or at least, don't like it enough.
dandon
about the paranoia i know. but isn't sweden supposed to be prime bandwdith land?
yeah i guess
even though they're supposed to be atheists
arma
dandon: i'm going to there next week. i'll see if i can get a better answer.
dandon
oh. nice. arma europe?
ilter
OFFShare: When i add "http_proxy = http://127.0.0.1:10001/ " and "use_proxy = on" lines on wgetrc. But wget gives error: ERROR 501: Tor is not an HTTP Proxy. Any suggest?
arma
sweden
murb
dandon: i'd get just due to geography, germany is better connected to the internet than sweden.
s/get/guess/
dandon
arma: yes you go to sweden, but you are swedish?
arma
no
ilter
DrThodt: arma is master, asking him is best. Sorry if i directed you wrongly.
OFFShare
ilter: http_proxy = http://localhost:8118 and use_proxy = on thats what i have..
arma
drthodt: that sounds plausible
ilter
OFFShare: So wget request reaches Tor over Polipo?
phobos
wget wants an http proxy, not a socks proxy
same with curl
OFFShare
i use privoxy and that works.
ilter
phobos: Is it reason wget can't use direct Tor?
phobos
yes
i've never been able to get wget nor curl to use tor as a socks proxy
they both want an http proxy
OFFShare
so privoxy listens on 8118 for http requests.
ilter
phobos, OFFShare, Sebastian_: Thank you so much. I got it.
OFFShare
and wget "http:// whatfile.com/name" works fine.
ilter
Yes now it works fine ..
bubbles|
ok, i started tor manually (over the command-line) but i get a "tor is not a http proxy" message
arma
bubbles|: you're trying to use your tor's socks port as an http proxy.
bubbles|
hm.. but when using the socks proxy websites load much slower
why is that?
arma
https://www.torproject.org/faq#WhySlow
bubbles|
no, when starting it with vidalia it was much faster
nsa
or: phobos committed revision 22250 (/projects/presentations): Add jacob's sourceboston presentation.
phobos
do you mean browsing the web was faster? or starting tor was faster?
bubbles|
browsing was faster
phobos
i suspect that's circuit dependent
bubbles|
why? does vidalia have its own one?
arma
bubbles: you haven't really described enough for us to guess what you're doing.
bubbles|
tor.exe -SocksPort 8084 -TrackHostExits . -TrackHostExitsExpire 21800 - then i put that port as a socks proxy in firefox and started surfing
arma
ah. yes, firefox can't do socks proxies directly. i mean, it can, but its socks proxy support is broken in quite bad ways.
we've been bugging them for a few years to fix it, but they don't fix it.
bubbles|
ok, so what do i do?
arma
that's why we suggest you use an http proxy.
bubbles|
is that what vidalia does?
arma
vidalia is a gui for tor. depending on its config, it starts up tor, or a http proxy, or both, or neither.
perhaps you mean "is that what this bundle i installed that i am calling vidalia does?"
torbutton by default points to localhost 8118,
and the polipo that comes with the vidalia by default listens on localhost 8118
s/the vidalia/the vidalia bundle/
same with the tor browser bundle
bubbles|
and polipo then sends the http-requests to the tor-socks-proxy?
is there a page like http://www.torproject.org/tor-manual.html.en for polipo?
arma
http://www.pps.jussieu.fr/~jch/software/polipo/polipo.man.html
or 'no', depending on what you are wanting
dandon
ok. so i just want to clarify a small thing i already asked today.. flash and tor. [2010-04-13 21:03:40] <danieldg> I'm not sure if flash uses a proxy for anything; I know it doesn't for videos
bubbles|
hm... i plan on starting multiple instances of tor (so that i can have different ips and the same time) - do i also have to start polipo multiple times for this to work properly?
dandon
i think this statement is onl valid with on linux
arma
dandon: flash in general can choose whether it wants to use your proxy. that's bad news for your privacy.
dandon
there is no uid for flash on windows. afaik
so what information apart from lso can be shared..
arma
lso?
dandon
sorrry. flash cookies
arma
bubbles: probably. what you want is not a common tor set-up.
dandon: well, it could make outgoing connections bypassing tor, thus revealing your ip address.
dandon: depending on which bugs have been fixed or not fixed lately, it can probably get you to run javascript on localhost, tricking you into reading or writing local files (and then it can send them out)
dandon
how do you want to wrap this if you don't have a process for flash in windows.. like this guide show for linux http://coderrr.wordpress.com/2009/07/29/how-to-force-flash-or-any-program-to-use-a-socks-proxy-using-transocks-and-iptables-in-linux/
arma: ok
do any experienced windows users hang around in this channel?
katmagic
Tor implements a transparent proxy internally.
blackpaw
dandon:What do you mean my experienced?
danieldg
bubbles|: you can use a single instance of polipo if you don't mind all your traffic going through only one of the tor instances
dandon
who use windows.. not exclusively but on a regular basis. i still haven't downloaded freecap because i'm still searching for wrappers
i ran across this linux few hours back so i just wondered..
danieldg
on linux, you can do tricks with NAT and iptables statistic module to choose a tor instance randomly
ilter
Is there any way to see history of files on svn? For example how can i learn when was this one created; https://svn.torproject.org/svn/torflow/trunk/README ?
arma
ilter: do an svn checkout, then 'svn log'
ilter
arma: How can i do it?