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nsa
or: phobos committed revision 22431 (/projects/presentations): add Karen's tor brochure
or: phobos committed revision 22432 (/website/trunk/en): change the youtube link to ours now.
hotaru2k3
i'm having some trouble with torbutton... firefox crashes when loading any page through a proxy. if i disable the extension, firefox works fine.
Smirnoff
Hello, the tor and privoxy daemons are running but the tor "Test Setting" in tor button is failed, any ideas ?
Manny
Smirnoff: can you verify tor is working with another client?
Smirnoff
How to do that ?
Manny
what are you using for irc?
you could try setting xchat to use tor
oftc lets you use tor
Smirnoff
To test it it works ?
Manny
yeah, I'd wanna know that your tor is working
Smirnoff
:S I didn't configure privoxy's config file
Manny
all better?
hotaru2k3
anyone have any ideas why torbutton would be making firefox crash?
Manny
is this a recent version?
hotaru2k3: ^
hotaru2k3
torbutton 1.2.5 and firefox 3.6.3
if i turn on tor and try to load a page, it crashes.
if i turn off tor, set firefox to use any proxy, and try to load a page, it crashes.
if i disable the torbutton extension and try to load a page (using a proxy), it doesn't crash.
Manny
well if you see mikeperry in here, be sure to bug him
:)
oh, and when you use tor without torbutton, does it still work?
hotaru2k3
yes, using tor without torbutton works
Smirnoff
when test setting of Tor button is running, the TorButton preference gets forzen
*frozen
Manny
allright, sure sounds like torbutton to me. only thing else you might try is creating a new profile and using torbutton with it
maybe something else u r using is conflicting with it
hotaru2k3
i tried disabling all plugins and all other extensions and it still crashed when using torbutton
Smirnoff
I got this: Tor proxy test: Local HTTP Proxy is unreachable. Is Polipo running properly?
Manny
hotaru2k3: as a workaround until someone else who knows something shows up, you could for the time being set it manually to use tor, and disable plugins manually
hotaru2k3
hmmm... with a new profile it doesn't crash
SwissTorExit
hotaru2k3: hi , have you installed torbutton on a new profile ? Mabye tried "firefox -no-remote -p" and create a nw profile for it and try again
yeah, you must always use a new profile if i am right , that's quite normal that it crash if you have plugins before
Manny
hotaru2k3: well there ya go. not bad for me being retarded :)
Smirnoff: polipo != privoxy
figure out which you're using
hotaru2k3
and now i fixed the profile i was using before... just copied all the torbutton settings from prefs.js in the new profile to prefs.js in my original profile
Smirnoff
Manny, I set torbutton to use manually configured setting to work with provixy
Manny
so you're sure you're using privoxy
SwissTorExit
Torbutton are already configured to use privoxy/polipo, both use same port ....
but yeah, you can manually too for sure ;)
Manny
it would be nice to be certain which of the two he is using
SwissTorExit
well it a sure thing while you can't have or better to say , you must have only one running, so not hard to know
Smirnoff
I don't have polipo installed
SwissTorExit
i don't like polipo for my part, it slow a lot my browsing on my system and mostly make problem when i have 10 or more pages open
me too, no more lol
Manny
polipo should be faster actually
SwissTorExit
bah some say that but on my 4 cores , privoxy are a lot more faster by me
Smirnoff
When I unchecked polipo, some of the manual settings are gone
Manny
because privoxy does url filtering by default, it has to load the whole page before displaying stuff
SwissTorExit
but i have privoxy 3.0.15
yeah, i see that it use a some ressource to load the page, mabye that's why slow on old system
ilter
Sebastian_: Hello. Now i can run tor-0.2.2.13-alpha as a relay also.Here is my torrc file; http://pastebin.com/aafuVk5P
Btw hello everyone.
SwissTorExit
but i agree that early when Tor used privoxy, it was outaded and bugged, it gived some timeout but that's fixed from very long time now and devloppement are really on heavy dev, so i don't really get why there changed so quick and without really tested actuall version privoxy, anyway the luck are that we have everyone the choose :D
hi ilter
it was a improuvement for you with libevent2 ilter ?
Manny
SwissTorExit: how can it not be slower?
SwissTorExit
i don't know, i just see in reality on the same machine, the rest i not have a clue
ilter
SwissTorExit: Yes now i'm using latest libevent version (2.0.5-beta).
Arathorn
tips on activating torbutton in firefox to use your own bridge as a tor proxy? Is that even possible?
Sebastian
Torbutton has nothing to do with Tor's configuration
you'll want to add the bridge in Vidalia
Arathorn
but then I have to select "run as client", which disables "run as bridge"?
When I tell torbutton to use localhost and the correct ports it says "Tor proxy test: No TorCheckResult id found (response not valid XHTML)"
nsa
or: phobos committed revision 22433 (/website/trunk/include): os x i386 bundles now available.
Sebastian
Arathorn: you cannot provide a bridge if you have to use one yourself to access the net
Arathorn
Sebastian, I don't have to ... I jsut want to be able to. Firefox can use it, just as I use tor to access this irc channel, right?
phobos
the same tor process cannot both use a bridge and be a bridge
Arathorn
and since I run a bridge myself, I thought I could tell torbutton to connect firefox to tor through my own bridge
phobos
in order to do what you want, you'd have to open the socks port on the bridge and then point your firefox at that IP:port
Sebastian
Arathorn: ah, so you want to reduce the path length, basically.
That's not possible, sorry
Arathorn
phobos, I am doing that on IRC, I am using localhost as proxy at the correct port, and I am torified on OFTC
Sebastian
You can use your own bridge as a Tor client
but from there you will have three hops, just like everyone else
phobos
right, because you're a client talking to your local tor process
Arathorn
but torbutton won't play ball
irc connects successfully (as far as I can tell)
Sebastian
That probably means you don't have an http proxy set up
Arathorn
But other clients can use http through the bridge I'm running?
I feel like I'm missing something :p
Sebastian
Well, let's back up some
There are two _completely different_ things going on
one is that you are providing a bridge for others, that allows access to the Tor network for people who can't otherwise access it because it is blocked
the other is that you want to use Tor as a client yourself
to do that, you need the regular setup consisting of Tor, Torbutton, and Polipo as an http proxy
Nobody else can use your bridge as a client
Arathorn
Well, forget it then :) I jsut tried to connect IRC through lcalhost, and it worked! ... but I was surprised that firefox couldn't
but it's no biggie
murble
hmm i suppose i should move my bridges arround.
(suspious lack of traffic from any chinese network)
Sebastian
Arathorn: irc uses socks directly
firefox's socks support sucks, so you need an http proxy.
Arathorn
thanks for the info :)
but i just tried it for fun
(Action) currently gets 20 GB/day of bridge load ... not huge, but it's also growing
Sebastian
neat
thanks for running a bridge
murble
Arathorn: yeah, i got up to about that, but i've noticed it has been about 20mb a day for the past week ;(
are people in countries other than china using tor bridges much?
Sebastian
yes
Arathorn
murble, I have 13 countries in my clientsa list at the moment
murble
i'm not seeing much evidence of that here.
nsa
or: phobos committed revision 22434 (/projects/misc-sysadmin): add the other yatei.
Sebastian
murble: it might be that your bridge is simply in the unallocated block in the bridge db.
We're working on exporting that information, see recent tor-dev posting
murble
Sebastian: i'm pretty sure it wouldn't have got to 20G + a day
and then stopped.
Arathorn
Saudi arabia, Germany, Australia, United arab emirates, Thailand, Japan, Iran, China, France, Pakistan, POland, Canada and the US
nsa
or: sebastian committed revision 22435 (/projects/android/trunk/Orbot): Add a missing space to the build instructions
or: sebastian committed revision 22436 (/projects/android/trunk/Orbot): Make it easier for others to be a little less stupid than I was.
st1ck
if i used mapaddress for freenodes hidden service can i still use tor ...say to browse, will it use the freenodes hidden service for browsing ?
Sebastian
no, it won't. Browsing should work fine
st1ck
so i just add the mappaddress line and kill -HUP <pid> and it work
nsa
or: sebastian committed revision 22437 (/projects/android/trunk/Orbot): Don't build the Tor manpages
Sebastian
if you do it right it should be as simple as that, yes
st1ck
ok thanks
nsa
or: ioerror committed revision 22438 (/projects/android/trunk/Orbot/src/org/torproject/android/service): add some stuff for transproxy
collar
mikeperry: regarding bug 1068 (disable rss feeds), "fixed in 1.2.5"--
does that disable only the builtin updating of livemarks or also all uses of RSS? I'm using the NewsFox extension with 1.2.4.